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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Your numbers don't prove anything vis-a-vis the stimulus. All you can show is that 3 million jobs were lost. You can't show that, without the stimulus, five, or six, or eight or ten million jobs wouldn't have been lost.
    If I can show a net job loss today of 3 million jobs where were the jobs created? You believe that more jobs would be lost but cannot prove it so why do you buy the Obama lies.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If he was really ambitious he should say he saved 9 million jobs.

    It's not as though he's ever taken an anti-exaggeration position.
    Great point, although look at the people who bought the saved jobs claim. He problem knew it was stretching it with the 3.5 million job numbers.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    [COLOR=#0000FF]Nope, the Constitution grants only the Supreme Court to be the ultimate arbitrator of all constitutional matters
    LOL. The people can rebel. Therefore an armed populace is the final arbiter. We can hit the reset button.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    If I can show a net job loss today of 3 million jobs where were the jobs created? You believe that more jobs would be lost but cannot prove it so why do you buy the Obama lies.
    No, neither one of us can prove our cases. We just have to rely on the experts and common sense. The experts and common sense tell us that when you pump close to a trillion dollars into the economy, it stimulates the economy, thus saving and creating jobs. There are also many specific examples of jobs that were saved and created, if you would bother to visit the stimulus website which lists all of the various projects that were financed. Recovery.gov - Tracking the Money

    For example, the State of Texas reported receiving over $11.5 billion which saved or created over 45,000 jobs. And of course that's just direct jobs. There is a multiplier effect to any stimulus.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, neither one of us can prove our cases. We just have to rely on the experts and common sense. The experts and common sense tell us that when you pump close to a trillion dollars into the economy, it stimulates the economy, thus saving and creating jobs. There are also many specific examples of jobs that were saved and created, if you would bother to visit the stimulus website which lists all of the various projects that were financed. Recovery.gov - Tracking the Money

    For example, the State of Texas reported receiving over $11.5 billion which saved or created over 45,000 jobs. And of course that's just direct jobs. There is a multiplier effect to any stimulus.
    This is what you want to believe and nothing is going to change your mind. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is responsible for reporting employment and unemployment. I have posted the data from that site and given you the link. BLS nor any other service counts saved jobs and Obama knows that but that doesn't stop those that want to believe him to believe everything he says. The numbers are quite telling. We have 3 million fewer people employed today than when Obama took office, that is a bls fact. We have more unemployed today than when Obama took office, that is a bls fact. We have a declining labor force today vs. when Obama took office, that is another bls fact.

    Now you can counter with the argument that things could have been worse but that is pure opinion and speculation. Deal with facts and not speculation because when you don't you lose credibility

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    This is what you want to believe and nothing is going to change your mind. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is responsible for reporting employment and unemployment. I have posted the data from that site and given you the link. BLS nor any other service counts saved jobs and Obama knows that but that doesn't stop those that want to believe him to believe everything he says. The numbers are quite telling. We have 3 million fewer people employed today than when Obama took office, that is a bls fact. We have more unemployed today than when Obama took office, that is a bls fact. We have a declining labor force today vs. when Obama took office, that is another bls fact.

    Now you can counter with the argument that things could have been worse but that is pure opinion and speculation. Deal with facts and not speculation because when you don't you lose credibility
    BLS does not report saved jobs. Where is that link?

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    Now you can counter with the argument that things could have been worse but that is pure opinion and speculation. Deal with facts and not speculation because when you don't you lose credibility
    Aren't you to some extent speculating a Republican would be better?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    BLS does not report saved jobs. Where is that link?

    U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Aren't you to some extent speculating a Republican would be better?
    Of course he is. His entire argument is that Obama is responsible for the lousy economy, but he can't list a single thing Republicans would have done that wouldn't make the situation worse.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Aren't you to some extent speculating a Republican would be better?
    Anyone pro growth and pro private enterprise is better than what we have today. Neither Perry or Romney created the problem we have today and both have success stories to tout. We have 2 1/2 years of Obamanomics and the results speak for themselves.

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