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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, and JFK would have to have been a conservative today as well.
    Nothing could be further from the truth, JFK was a liberal and would be a liberal today if he were alive. He believed in a strong social safety net that Democrats support and Republicans oppose. He also believed in civil rights legislation that many on the right oppose today. And most conservatives don't understand his tax cut. He lowered the top marginal rate from 91% down to 70% because there were so many loopholes nobody paid taxes that high. So he lowered it and closed major loopholes. His tax cut was a demand-side tax cut because it put money in the hands of people who spend it. JFK understood capitalism, sadly most conservatives today don't.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Here ya go, Con ...

    Obama with school children ...





    ... Obama with teleprompters ...





    ... it's not even the same classroom!
    Well, you sure cleared that one up, now if only can get the economy turned around and the 38% JAR due to those poor economic results

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 55% disapproval ratings.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Well, you sure cleared that one up, now if only can get the economy turned around and the 38% JAR due to those poor economic results

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 55% disapproval ratings.
    You got caught lying red-handed (again). A man of character would apologize for lying. You? You simply slink back to the same talking point you post 80 times a day.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Well, you sure cleared that one up, now if only can get the economy turned around and the 38% JAR due to those poor economic results

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 55% disapproval ratings.
    Oy vey you get popped on your BS and can't even man up to it? Doesn't look good for you.......

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Two photos say a lot

    TWO PICTURES THAT SAY A LOT
    What do they say? Anyone who believe the imagery portrayed here is an idiot.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Nothing could be further from the truth, JFK was a liberal and would be a liberal today if he were alive. He believed in a strong social safety net that Democrats support and Republicans oppose. He also believed in civil rights legislation that many on the right oppose today. And most conservatives don't understand his tax cut. He lowered the top marginal rate from 91% down to 70% because there were so many loopholes nobody paid taxes that high. So he lowered it and closed major loopholes. His tax cut was a demand-side tax cut because it put money in the hands of people who spend it. JFK understood capitalism, sadly most conservatives today don't.
    I agree. The whole political spectrum has shifted drastically to the right in the last 30 years. There is really no such thing as a true liberal in national politics anymore, with the possible exception of Bernie Sanders. People who think that Obama is the most liberal president have no understanding of our history. Nixon was more liberal than Obama, let alone JFK or Johnson. Hell, Eisenhower could give him a run for his money.

    OTOH, Reagan woud be considered a RINO these days.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Here ya go, Con ...

    Obama with school children ...





    ... Obama with teleprompters ...





    ... it's not even the same classroom!
    The pictures don't display.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Nothing could be further from the truth, JFK was a liberal and would be a liberal today if he were alive. He believed in a strong social safety net that Democrats support and Republicans oppose. He also believed in civil rights legislation that many on the right oppose today. And most conservatives don't understand his tax cut. He lowered the top marginal rate from 91% down to 70% because there were so many loopholes nobody paid taxes that high. So he lowered it and closed major loopholes. His tax cut was a demand-side tax cut because it put money in the hands of people who spend it. JFK understood capitalism, sadly most conservatives today don't.
    Obviously you don't have a clue what JFK would do or even did

    "It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

    – John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president's news conference



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    "Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

    – John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964


    That stance isn't liberal

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You're right, he could have chosen not to take undertake the idiotic healthcare reforms and instead focused on the economy. That was stupid, but that's just what Democrats do. The healthcare reforms were a success on their own terms, even if they were a waste of political capital that could have otherwise been spent on full-on Keynesian economic reforms that would have helped the economy a great deal.

    But really, the economic collapse occurred on Bush's watch, thanks to policies instituted by Reagan, and exacerbated by two Bush wars. The recent debt ceiling crisis is the direct result of Tea Party petulance even the moderates among Republicans acknowledge that. You can't blame Obama for the economic slump, because it is the direct result of the Republicans. The Democrats are only to blame insofar as they were unable to sufficiently stop Republicans from ruining the economy.

    So, you're right, Obama should have said, "Bush, the Tea Party, Reagan and the Republicans in general are to blame for the economic crisis. But I am also to blame for not doing enough to counteract Republican incompetence."
    2 1/2 years later and Obama along with his supporters continue to blame Bush. When does this become the Obama economic results since obviously these aren't his

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    When there are no more effects of the Bush years.
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