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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That's a lie. The stimulus was supposed create or save 3 million jobs. It was never a panacea for all of our problems. And even you tacitly confessed that Obama's stimulus created/saved 3, half a million more than the original expectation.
    Yet Obama's approval rating is 38% today and we have more unemployed today than we had when he took office. His record will be on the ballot and that record shows a disaster.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    How does keeping the taxes get them jobs again? We need to admit, as a country, that using the tax code to achieve social change is retarded. Taxes should = expenditures + a few percentage points for overages and unforeseen events.



    Blame the states for using the money to close budget short falls like TX, instead of using the money on infrastructure projects.



    Half of the 49% of people who don't pay federal income tax since ~20% of the population isn't employed for various reason. Don't you know how to follow a conversation?

    Also, 100$/year x 153mill x .2 = ~3billion. Chump change compared to the federal budget or debt. In order to make a dent in either, you'd have to take half of the cumulated "wealth" of the working poor which = ~700billion. Or you can get the same number by taxing the rich an additional 3%.





    Because of republican tax credit programs. That 45%-49% number includes unemployed, people who don't earn enough to pay taxes (poverty line or lower). That's appox half of that number. You should be bitching about the other half that works and avoids paying taxes because of programs YOUR PARTY ADVOCATED FOR such as: earned income credit, child deductions, mortgage deductions, student loan deductions, charity deductions, etc. People who are considered middle class benifit from these types of deductions than the poor. As Friedman said (I'm paraphrasing here) there exist no worse crime than taxing the poor for the benefit for the rest of us.
    Then stop the damn spending on social engineering that never solves a problem. There is no reason for a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal Govt. and apparently nothing is going to change your mind. What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty? If you keep more of what you earn do you really need this big of a Federal Govt?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Great parody on Obama for the past 2 1/2 years

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Stop defending an incompetent, empty suit. FY 2009 had TARP and Stimulus in it, Very little in 2010 and 2011. Your support of Obama says it all.
    Of the $1.9 trillion deficit, $152B was TARP and besides, Bush owns TARP. $200B was stimulus, that is Obama's. The other $1.6 trillion is Bush's.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Of the $1.9 trillion deficit, $152B was TARP and besides, Bush owns TARP. $200B was stimulus, that is Obama's. The other $1.6 trillion is Bush's.
    What does that have to do with the Obama record today? Yes, Bush owned TARP that was passed by a Democrat Controlled Congress and supported by Obama. It was TARP that saved the economy not the stimulus and it was TARP that was a loan most of which has been repaid. Your obsession with Bush is noted but all that does is divert from the incompetent you voted for and helped put into the WH. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012, not TARP or Bush

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    What does that have to do with the Obama record today?
    That Bush passed on a $1.6 trillion shortfall in his budget, along with his Great Recession, along with losing 8 million jobs and 5% GDP during that Great Recession, along with a collpaed housing market and a frozen credit, 22 million underemployed, a crashed stock market -- has a lot to do with the current economy. Those are massive structural problems that are not fixed in 2 years.


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Yes, Bush owned TARP that was passed by a Democrat Controlled Congress and supported by Obama.
    Funny how you refused to accept that Bush owned TARP when you thought the impact of it on the FY2009 budget was $700B; but when you learn it was really only $152B, now you admit Bush owns it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    It was TARP that saved the economy not the stimulus and it was TARP that was a loan most of which has been repaid.
    You quoted Morris claiming all $700B were applied to the deficit. Now that you see the real number is $152B, do you realize the funds paid back in FY2009 were applied to reducing the deficit? Are you mentally prepared to part forever with that rightwing talking point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Your obsession with Bush is noted but all that does is divert from the incompetent you voted for and helped put into the WH. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012, not TARP or Bush
    We'll see. I suspect Bush's Great Recession will play a role in next years election.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That Bush passed on a $1.6 trillion shortfall in his budget, along with his Great Recession, along with losing 8 million jobs and 5% GDP during that Great Recession, along with a collpaed housing market and a frozen credit, 22 million underemployed, a crashed stock market -- has a lot to do with the current economy. Those are massive structural problems that are not fixed in 2 years.



    Funny how you refused to accept that Bush owned TARP when you thought the impact of it on the FY2009 budget was $700B; but when you learn it was really only $152B, now you admit Bush owns it.


    You quoted Morris claiming all $700B were applied to the deficit. Now that you see the real number is $152B, do you realize the funds paid back in FY2009 were applied to reducing the deficit? Are you mentally prepared to part forever with that rightwing talking point?


    We'll see. I suspect Bush's Great Recession will play a role in next years election.
    Obama approval rating today is 38% so people aren't buying your argument because they are looking at the Obama numbers TODAY. You need to get out of the past although I can see you don't understand what it means to be a leader thus your support for Obama. Hope you make Bush the issue in 2012 to see if you can get the same brainwashed group again like you did in 2008.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great parody on Obama for the past 2 1/2 years

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    Kind of funny, is this all you've got?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Stop defending an incompetent, empty suit.
    Why do you defend Bush?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Why do you defend Bush?
    I don't defend Bush as there is nothing to defend. He is out of office and not on the 2012 ballot nor is he having any impact on the economy in 2011.

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