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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Now you are conflating issues. Who said raising taxes was about adding jobs? It's about balancing the budget. Although when Washington is fiscally responsible, the private sector does seem more confident in hiring.
    Getting more taxpayers will generate more revenue to the govt so you don't need to raise taxes, just increase jobs.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Here we go again, give me your numbers of unemployed, the household survey comes from actual phone calls made to households.
    You've been given the numbers.

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    the Establishment Survey uses statistics.
    And payroll data counts those actually on a payroll.

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    Which one is more accurate?
    As I've said in the past, I don't know which is more accurate. That doesn't mean you get to throw away payroll data because you like household survey data better.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Mine:


    Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)

    Series Id: CES0000000001
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Super Sector: Total nonfarm
    Industry: Total nonfarm
    NAICS Code: -
    Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
    TOTAL NON FARM leaves out a lot of employees and that my point. Civilian labor force is 153 million so using your numbers there would be a total of 22 million officially unemployed putting unemployment at 14%

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You've been given the numbers.


    And payroll data counts those actually on a payroll.


    As I've said in the past, I don't know which is more accurate. That doesn't mean you get to throw away payroll data because you like household survey data better.
    So tell me what the unemployment rate is today in your world?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    If it was applied then that would reduce the Bush deficit since Bush spent 350 billion dollars of TARP leaving 350 billion for Obama. You are making it worse for Obama, thanks
    How do you know it didn't reduce Bush's FY2009 budget? You haven't posted any proof of any of the nonsense you are spouting.

    Prove it already, Conservative.

    Show how much of TARP was spent in FY2009, show how much of TARP was paid back in FY2009, show how much of TARP was applied to the FY2009 budget.

    You haven't shown any of that. You're just spouting off more rigwing zombie talking points.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How do you know it didn't reduce Bush's FY2009 budget? You haven't posted any proof of any of the nonsense you are spouting.

    Prove it already, Conservative.

    Show how much of TARP was spent in FY2009, show how much of TARP was paid back in FY2009, show how much of TARP was applied to the FY2009 budget.

    You haven't shown any of that. You're just spouting off more rigwing zombie talking points.
    Go to TARP website and see how much was distributed and to whom. You will find that Bush spent 350 billion dollars from October to December and left 350 billion for Obama. The repayment of TARP began in 2009 and continued into 2010. Shouldn't that be credited to Bush? How much of TARP has been repaid and how much did TARP add to the 2009 deficit?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    TOTAL NON FARM leaves out a lot of employees and that my point. Civilian labor force is 153 million so using your numbers there would be a total of 22 million officially unemployed putting unemployment at 14%
    CES0000000001 Shows actual employment numbers, I used MS Excel to show the gains and losses.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    CES0000000001 Shows actual employment numbers, I used MS Excel to show the gains and losses.
    Unemployment percentage is calculated by taking the total number of unemployed divided by the total labor force. If your total employment is 131 and the labor force is 153 that percentage is 14%. Could it be possible that you have the wrong number of total employed?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Go to TARP website and see how much was distributed and to whom. You will find that Bush spent 350 billion dollars from October to December and left 350 billion for Obama. The repayment of TARP began in 2009 and continued into 2010. Shouldn't that be credited to Bush? How much of TARP has been repaid and how much did TARP add to the 2009 deficit?
    Are you saying Obama should have ignored the legislation? You would be right in there bashing him for not doing so. You know you would.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Unemployment percentage is calculated by taking the total number of unemployed divided by the total labor force. If your total employment is 131 and the labor force is 153 that percentage is 14%. Could it be possible that you have the wrong number of total employed?
    My numbers come straight from bls.gov, the same place you always cite. Note: I made no attempt to come up with a percentage because that's another ball of wax.

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