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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No one is claiming that Obama isn't responsible for *some* of the '09 deficit. He just isn't responsible for *most* of it.

    Let's also not forget that much of Obama's deficits isn't owing to increased spending, but rather to lower revenue as a result of the recession. That accounts for about $250 billion/yr.
    I don't care how much of the 2009 deficit Obama is responsible for but I do care about him putting Bush spending on steroids and then generating terrible results. Who is responsible for the 2010-2011 deficits? How much is that and then add whatever it is that you believe Obama contributed to the 2009 deficit.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    just like you are never going to show where TARP repayment was applied to the budget so this is a waste of time.
    You're lying again. First, you have to prove the money wasn't applied to the budget. The onus to prove you are right isd on you. It's not my job to prove you right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Like it or not Obama has had over 4 trillion added to the debt since he took office and Bush had nothing to do with 2010 and 2011 budget deficits which will total 3 trillion dollars.
    Which is about the same as Bush, who also added $3 trillion in two years, only Bush can't blame it on another president who gave him a recession; Bush can only blame his own recession.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No one is claiming that Obama isn't responsible for *some* of the '09 deficit. He just isn't responsible for *most* of it.

    Let's also not forget that much of Obama's deficits isn't owing to increased spending, but rather to lower revenue as a result of the recession. That accounts for about $250 billion/yr.
    Today's poll numbers, guess the public just doesn't see what you see

    Gallup.Com - Daily News, Polls, Public Opinion on Government, Politics, Economics, Management

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it's simply somebody else's problem.

    About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.
    Almost 90% of the Americans who pay no federal income tax are:

    Incomes that fall below the standard deduction and personal exemptions - the poorest among us

    The exemption for most Social Security benefits - the poorer seniors who worked all their lives (while paying taxes) to make this a better country

    Tax benefits aimed at low-income families and children — the working poor with children struggling to make do from paycheck to paycheck


    These are the people the Bachman's and Perry's are crying that they want to share the burden, rather than ask for a couple of extra bucks from those who's wealth increased the most over the last decade.
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Though they were temporary jobs, yes, 400,000 payroll jobs were added that month...

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Unemployment by month, notice unemployment May 2010 vs 2009. 14973 vs 14518. Doesn't look like an improvement to me. Then don't get too excited bout the reduction in 2011 because most of that reduction was due to people dropping out of the labor force(discouraged workers) which are still higher than when he took office and his first 4 months in office. Where was the affect of that stimulus program?

    2009 11919 12714 13310 13816 14518 14721 14534 14993 15159 15612 15340 15267
    2010 14837 14871 15005 15260 14973 14623 14599 14860 14767 14843 15119 14485
    2011 13863 13673 13542 13747 13914 14087 13931
    There you go, lying again.

    Notive the part of my post I highlighted?

    Payroll data.

    So why do you dishonestly post household survey data?

    Once again, you are caught red-handed, cherry-picking data.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I believe I answered your question, yes, obama is responsible for many of those lost jobs during 2009 because of the failed stimulus program that didn't cap unemployment at 8%
    What the hell does "many" mean? Notice how many jobs were lost before the end of the recession officially ended in June 2009. Obama became President on Jan 20 and you are going to blame him for the whole month? Pure ODS. Please show month by month how the $800 stimulus was distributed.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Oh, Good Lord, fact, millions and millions of working Americans aren't paying any FIT and millions and millions of unemployed aren't paying full income taxes and millions and millions of under employed Americans aren't paying full income taxes. You add them up and tell me what affect they are having on govt. revenue that you are so concerned about.
    You are thoroughly confused and due to no one's fault but your own. I have always maintained that all of the Bush tax cuts should be expired, which would raise the taxes on most of those you complain about not paying any tax.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Almost 90% of the Americans who pay no federal income tax are:

    Incomes that fall below the standard deduction and personal exemptions - the poorest among us

    The exemption for most Social Security benefits - the poorer seniors who worked all their lives (while paying taxes) to make this a better country

    Tax benefits aimed at low-income families and children — the working poor with children struggling to make do from paycheck to paycheck


    These are the people the Bachman's and Perry's are crying that they want to share the burden, rather than ask for a couple of extra bucks from those who's wealth increased the most over the last decade.
    No, these are the people not paying any FIT and if you believe revenue is a problem, shouldn't they pay something? Your post is typical liberalism, distortion of what Perry and Bachmann are saying, not surprising, anything to make the empty suit look good and to divert from his record.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You are thoroughly confused and due to no one's fault but your own. I have always maintained that all of the Bush tax cuts should be expired, which would raise the taxes on most of those you complain about not paying any tax.
    You are in the minority and that is the fact. If you want to eliminate all the Bush tax cuts then tell me how raising taxes puts 25 million unemployed and under employed back to work or into full time jobs?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    There you go, lying again.

    Notive the part of my post I highlighted?

    Payroll data.

    So why do you dishonestly post household survey data?

    Once again, you are caught red-handed, cherry-picking data.
    Here we go again, give me your numbers of unemployed, the household survey comes from actual phone calls made to households. the Establishment Survey uses statistics. Which one is more accurate?

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