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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    US Treasury shows over 4 trillion added to the debt since Obama took office and those are the numbers he is responsible for.
    It also shows that $1.3 trillion grew between January 20, 2009 and September 30, 2009. Almost all of which is attributable to Bush's FY2009 budget.

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    Good leaders accept responsibility, Obama and liberals can only place blame.
    No leader accepts responsibility for the failure of their predecessors.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, he is NOT responsible for spending that was locked in before he took office. Doesn't matter how many times you claim otherwise.
    No, nor was Bush responsible for the supplementals that Obama spent or the billions he spent taking over Chrysler/GM. Again as usual, you ignore the responsibility of a leader just like you ignore the past 2 years which Bush had nothing to do with. Obama like all liberals always blame someone else for their own failures.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It also shows that $1.3 trillion grew between January 20, 2009 and September 30, 2009. Almost all of which is attributable to Bush's FY2009 budget.


    No leader accepts responsibility for the failure of their predecessors.
    Look, you and I are never going to agree on how much Obama added to the 2009 budget, just like you are never going to show where TARP repayment was applied to the budget so this is a waste of time. Like it or not Obama has had over 4 trillion added to the debt since he took office and Bush had nothing to do with 2010 and 2011 budget deficits which will total 3 trillion dollars.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Then post the link and before you do check the description. There weren't 400,000 jobs created in May 2010 and you ought to know that.
    Though they were temporary jobs, yes, 400,000 payroll jobs were added that month...


    Census jobs provide short but welcome opportunity

    WASHINGTON (AP) As Census workers gear up to count us, they are counting themselves lucky to be employed.

    This once-a-decade temporary work force is giving a timely boost to the battered job market. Census workers accounted for nearly a third of the jobs added in March, when hiring occurred at the fastest pace in three years.

    Over the next two months, another 600,000 to 700,000 Census jobs will be added, putting $10 to $25 an hour into the pockets of some desperate job seekers.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    25 million unemployed and under employed Americans, 65+25=90
    Are you going to just ignore my question?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Are you going to just ignore my question?
    I believe I answered your question, yes, obama is responsible for many of those lost jobs during 2009 because of the failed stimulus program that didn't cap unemployment at 8%

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    No one is claiming that Obama isn't responsible for *some* of the '09 deficit. He just isn't responsible for *most* of it.

    Let's also not forget that much of Obama's deficits isn't owing to increased spending, but rather to lower revenue as a result of the recession. That accounts for about $250 billion/yr.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    25 million unemployed and under employed Americans, 65+25=90
    The U6 number of 25 million you are referencing is comprised of 15 million unemployed and another 10 million underemployed.

    So out of your 90 million figure, roughly 15 million have no job -- yet you count those among your complaint of those not paying federal income tax. The other 10 million are employed, but you count those twice; once in the group of workers who pay no FIT and then again in the group of underemployed who pay no FIT.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Though they were temporary jobs, yes, 400,000 payroll jobs were added that month...


    Census jobs provide short but welcome opportunity

    WASHINGTON (AP) — As Census workers gear up to count us, they are counting themselves lucky to be employed.

    This once-a-decade temporary work force is giving a timely boost to the battered job market. Census workers accounted for nearly a third of the jobs added in March, when hiring occurred at the fastest pace in three years.

    Over the next two months, another 600,000 to 700,000 Census jobs will be added, putting $10 to $25 an hour into the pockets of some desperate job seekers.
    Unemployment by month, notice unemployment May 2010 vs 2009. 14973 vs 14518. Doesn't look like an improvement to me. Then don't get too excited bout the reduction in 2011 because most of that reduction was due to people dropping out of the labor force(discouraged workers) which are still higher than when he took office and his first 4 months in office. Where was the affect of that stimulus program?

    2009 11919 12714 13310 13816 14518 14721 14534 14993 15159 15612 15340 15267
    2010 14837 14871 15005 15260 14973 14623 14599 14860 14767 14843 15119 14485
    2011 13863 13673 13542 13747 13914 14087 13931

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The U6 number of 25 million you are referencing is comprised of 15 million unemployed and another 10 million underemployed.

    So out of your 90 million figure, roughly 15 million have no job -- yet you count those among your complaint of those not paying federal income tax. The other 10 million are employed, but you count those twice; once in the group of workers who pay no FIT and then again in the group of underemployed who pay no FIT.
    Oh, Good Lord, fact, millions and millions of working Americans aren't paying any FIT and millions and millions of unemployed aren't paying full income taxes and millions and millions of under employed Americans aren't paying full income taxes. You add them up and tell me what affect they are having on govt. revenue that you are so concerned about.

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