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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Seriously, this is foreign to you? The fact is that the low income earners - those that live paycheck to paycheck - pay a higher percentage of their income on all taxes than the wealthy do.

    Again, those people who pay no federal income taxes have enough deductions to reduce their taxable income to zero. Here is the tax table for 2011:



    Married Filing Jointly Married Filing Separately Single Head of Household
    Marginal Tax Brackets Marginal Tax Brackets Marginal Tax Brackets Marginal Tax Brackets
    Tax Rate Over But Not Over Tax Rate Over But Not Over Tax Rate Over But Not Over Tax Rate Over But Not Over
    10.0% $0 $17,000 10.0% $0 $8,500 10.0% $0 $8,500 10.0% $0 $12,150
    15.0% $17,000 $69,000 15.0% $8,500 $34,500 15.0% $8,500 $34,500 15.0% $12,150 $46,250
    25.0% $69,000 $139,350 25.0% $34,500 $69,675 25.0% $34,500 $83,600 25.0% $46,250 $119,400
    28.0% $139,350 $212,300 28.0% $69,675 $106,150 28.0% $83,600 $174,400 28.0% $119,400 $193,350
    33.0% $212,300 $379,150 33.0% $106,150 $189,575 33.0% $174,400 $379,150 33.0% $193,350 $379,150
    35.0% $379,150 - 35.0% $189,575 - 35.0% $379,150 - 35.0% $379,150 -
    Note: Last law to change rates was the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
    Do you have a point? What does that have to do with the 47% of income earners that don't pay any FIT? Those living paycheck to paycheck still have a personal responsibility to pay for what they use and that is the point you continue to miss. You don't know what their living expenses are but think with your heart and judge everyone else by your own standards. To say that income earners cannot pay something net to the Federal govt. for services used is ridiculous and naive.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Learn how to use bls.gov and get the facts before making a post.full time and that number totals today a little over 139 million, 47% of that number pays zero in FIT. That is the reality that liberals like you want to ignore
    And confuse (possibly intentionally) real and nominal numbers like you do?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tax Day is a dreaded deadline for millions, but for nearly half of U.S. households it's simply somebody else's problem.

    About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization.
    Yeah, what is your point? You say we have a revenue problem? If so you now know where to go to get it. Plus there are 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans that are paying very little in FIT as well. That makes around 90 million Americans paying little if any in FIT

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And confuse (possibly intentionally) real and nominal numbers like you do?
    What does that have to do with income earners not paying any FIT?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    And let me remind you that you called that "Socialist." But we have 47% of workers not paying tax because of Bush's tax cuts which makes him a Socialist for passing Socialist taxes; which makes you a Socialist for voting for a Socialist president and supporting his Socialist policies, ipso facto.
    Let me remind you that I have never said we have a revenue problem but instead have a spending problem. I am the one here that doesn't care how much you make and believe you should keep more of what you earn and the fact that doesn't hurt the economy at all.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Posted it many times, but apparently you are too busy looking for a gotcha moment that you ignored the link.

    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax - Yahoo! Finance
    Hey, look at that ... your link appears to be calling you a liar too.

    You said 47% of "workers" paid no FIT ... the article you linked said 47% of "U.S. households."

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What does that have to do with income earners not paying any FIT?
    Uh it was in response to what you posted about learning to use the BLS website.

    Are you getting "confused"again?
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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uh it was in response to what you posted about learning to use the BLS website.
    It was non responsive to the fact posted and has nothing to do with nominal or real numbers which were created to compare years so what does that have to do with income earners not paying any FIT

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yeah, what is your point? You say we have a revenue problem? If so you now know where to go to get it. Plus there are 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans that are paying very little in FIT as well. That makes around 90 million Americans paying little if any in FIT
    It's so obvious that we have a revenue problem, before the Bush tax cuts we were getting our debt under control. Eliminate ALL the Bush tax cuts and you should see fiscal sanity return.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    That addresses the number of working people in this country. If a student is working then they are included, if not they aren't.
    Wouldn't that also include unemployed people collecting unemployment checks since that is also subject to federal income tax?

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