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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I had hoped that common sense would suffice, but apparently that's lacking. So here you go: http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/do...-Recession.pdf
    July 27, 2010 which obviously missed the first and second quarter GDP numbers as well as the job numbers showing a reduction in the labor force. You keep buying what you want to believe and ignore the actual results. The question is why? Do you believe having .4% and 1% GDP growth shows the kind of economic results that should have been generated by 4 trillion added to the debt? Do you think having fewer jobs and more unemployed than when he took office is good economic performance? What is it going to take to get you to admit that you are wrong?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    Right, borrowing money from the bank and putting it into your budget showing a surplus is reality
    Again, learn the difference between the deficit and the debt and stop embarrassing yourself. Start with learning about how payments against the debt are made; maybe then you'll understand that the debt shrinks based on how much is paid back during the fiscal year and why those payments are irrelevant to comparing the annual deficit with how much the debt increases or decreases during a fiscal year.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Too funny, Con ...

    You post bull**** numbers and when I point out your numbers are bull**** and explain why they're bull****, rather than own your bull****, you try to claim I'm the one distorting numbers.



    When does your lying end? When are you going to begin to debate honestly?
    Right, what you did was take Perry's numbers in December 2007 and ignored the January 2009 numbers vs. today

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    July 27, 2010 which obviously missed the first and second quarter GDP numbers as well as the job numbers showing a reduction in the labor force. You keep buying what you want to believe and ignore the actual results. The question is why? Do you believe having .4% and 1% GDP growth shows the kind of economic results that should have been generated by 4 trillion added to the debt? Do you think having fewer jobs and more unemployed than when he took office is good economic performance? What is it going to take to get you to admit that you are wrong?
    J-Mac asked for an explanation by a credible economist, and I gave him one by two very credible economists. Obviously you didn't read it -- not that you would have understood it if you had. You can't even grasp the difference between raw and adjusted data or the debt and the deficit.
    Last edited by AdamT; 08-26-11 at 11:27 AM.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, what you did was take Perry's numbers in December 2007 and ignored the January 2009 numbers vs. today
    So borrowing money from the bank is debt but putting that money into your current budget creates a surplus? LOL, great spin but typical of an Obama supporter. Better join Adam in taking a civics and economic class. A public debt surplus doesn't assure that the total budget is in surplus because like most liberals you don't understand intergovt. holdings.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    J-Mac asked for an explanation by a credible economist, and I gave him one by two very credible economists. Obviously you didn't read it -- not that you would have understood it if you have. You can't even grasp the difference between raw and adjusted data.
    You gave him a 2010 article before fiscal year 2011 showing again that you don't understand what you are talking about. Obama spent over a trillion dollars and today we have .3% and 1% GDP Growth, that is a disaster. 25+ unemployed and under employed Americans today doesn't show an improving economy.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Sheik Yerbuti;1059757173]Again, learn the difference between the deficit and the debt and stop embarrassing yourself. Start with learning about how payments against the debt are made; maybe then you'll understand that the debt shrinks based on how much is paid back during the fiscal year and why those payments are irrelevant to comparing the annual deficit with how much the debt increases or decreases during a fiscal year.
    Apparently you don't understand that the total debt includes public debt and intergovt. holdings. Taking from one to make the other one look good doesn't create a surplus. Looks like you are confused by the term public debt which throws you off. That really is the deficit in your example.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    July 27, 2010 which obviously missed the first and second quarter GDP numbers as well as the job numbers showing a reduction in the labor force. You keep buying what you want to believe and ignore the actual results. The question is why? Do you believe having .4% and 1% GDP growth shows the kind of economic results that should have been generated by 4 trillion added to the debt? Do you think having fewer jobs and more unemployed than when he took office is good economic performance? What is it going to take to get you to admit that you are wrong?
    You seem to think having more unemployed even despite an increase in jobs is a good thing in the case of Perry's tenure as Governor of Texas

    Unemployment Texas
    ....Jan 2001 4.2
    .....Jul 2011 8.4

    Current Unemployment Rates for States and Historical Highs/Lows

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You seem to think having more unemployed even despite an increase in jobs is a good thing in the case of Perry's tenure as Governor of Texas

    Unemployment Texas
    ....Jan 2001 4.2
    .....Jul 2011 8.4

    Current Unemployment Rates for States and Historical Highs/Lows
    No, 8.4% isn't acceptable but beats the 9.1% National rate as well as the 16.1% total national unemployment. The net job growth in TX however trumps the net job loss nationally mostly in liberal states that love Obamanomics

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I had hoped that common sense would suffice, but apparently that's lacking. So here you go: http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/do...-Recession.pdf

    Notice I said a credible economist. Moody's, and Zandi have been on board shaping the narrative since the push for this middle of the night increase in debt occurred. IOW, Zandi has been a mouthpiece for the administration. Giving me the drawn out excuse for why a stimulus was needed in the Keynes model tells me nothing about how you objectively measure a "saved job".... The whole argument that libs are using now, combined with a plethora of skewed numbers, and hyperbolic partisan double talk, combined with platitudes shows me that libs are busted.

    Yours, and Obama's plan to explode the debt, and only aid those businesses and Unions that supported him are destroying this country, and the only answer you drones have is NOT accountability, it is NOT holding responsible that which did nothing but push us into crisis, but rather argue that more of what has already failed is needed.

    That is INSANE!

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