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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    You really don't have to be John Maynard Keynes to understand it. A saved job is simply one that would have been eliminated but-for the stimulus funds. These are state and local employees who would have been laid off, but who weren't laid off because the states used stimulus money to fund them. It's very apparent now, as the stimulus money winds down and states are laying off tens of thousands of workers per month.
    The problem is you have no idea whether or not those jobs would have been eliminated as the states weren't given the opportunity to solve their own problem. Show me where those jobs are calculated by an unbiased source?

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    The problem is you have no idea whether or not those jobs would have been eliminated as the states weren't given the opportunity to solve their own problem. Show me where those jobs are calculated by an unbiased source?
    You probably can't calculate it to the job, but it's not that hard to do on average.

    State, local governments set to see record job cuts, layoffs - Jun. 5, 2011

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You probably can't calculate it to the job, but it's not that hard to do on average.

    State, local governments set to see record job cuts, layoffs - Jun. 5, 2011
    It also isn't hard to accept the rhetoric of Obama since that is what you want to believe. The fact remains the jobs that Obama says he saved aren't federal responsibility nor were they part of the argument for the stimulus program. The term saved jobs was an after thought since Obama actually knew he was lying about shovel ready jobs. The stimulus program was sold as a job creator and his Administration said it would hold unemployment at 8% and today the unemployment level would be much lower. All Obama did was shore up his base and kick the can down the road. Today's GDP numbers show that to be the case and the jobs situation is worse than when he took office.

    Now you can continue to buy the Obama lies or you can man up and show maturing by admitting that Obama made a fool out of you.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You really don't have to be John Maynard Keynes to understand it. A saved job is simply one that would have been eliminated but-for the stimulus funds. These are state and local employees who would have been laid off, but who weren't laid off because the states used stimulus money to fund them. It's very apparent now, as the stimulus money winds down and states are laying off tens of thousands of workers per month.
    So, In other words, it is totally fictitious....These so called "saved jobs" are what ever Obama, and his supporters want to say they are....That is pure crap. I asked for a credible economist that could lay out the metrics, not some supporter with what they think...You can't provide that, which is no surprise really, because these "saved jobs" are a myth, they are part of the lie.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    The problem is you have no idea whether or not those jobs would have been eliminated as the states weren't given the opportunity to solve their own problem. Show me where those jobs are calculated by an unbiased source?
    Yesterday you posted following, the first set of numbers is NOT seasonally adjusted and the second set IS seasonally adjusted. Could you explain why this is??

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    Here are the official numbers since 2001 the state has increased Govt. jobs from 1.565 million to 1.77 or 205,000. Total employment went from 9.5 million to 10.6 million or 1.2 million which makes govt. employment about 18% with a 20% increase in population.

    Guess I just don't see that decrease in private sector jobs you claim happened. Don't you ever get embarrassed by being wrong so often?

    Government employment by month from 2001 to 2011

    2001 1565.7 1594.7 1600.0 1601.2 1602.0 1559.7 1494.2 1522.8 1603.1 1624.1 1636.3 1630.8 1586.2
    2002 1605.4 1638.0 1645.1 1644.7 1647.4 1599.6 1530.3 1550.8 1632.5 1668.1 1677.9 1671.6 1626.0
    2003 1642.8 1677.8 1676.1 1677.4 1677.2 1632.1 1555.4 1570.5 1642.2 1664.1 1673.3 1663.7 1646.1
    2004 1640.2 1674.4 1676.1 1676.7 1678.7 1636.7 1568.0 1586.2 1661.9 1684.8 1693.9 1688.5 1655.5
    2005 1666.5 1700.7 1703.1 1705.2 1707.0 1660.4 1597.5 1618.4 1690.3 1715.9 1727.8 1715.4 1684.0
    2006 1696.4 1728.9 1730.0 1726.5 1727.2 1683.9 1609.0 1634.8 1711.3 1741.2 1750.0 1742.5 1706.8
    2007 1716.3 1748.1 1754.5 1753.7 1756.7 1717.4 1646.5 1655.6 1731.5 1771.0 1786.0 1781.6 1734.9
    2008 1761.8 1793.7 1801.9 1795.2 1799.2 1763.9 1694.1 1701.5 1773.8 1809.5 1828.6 1823.1 1778.9
    2009 1804.1 1832.4 1839.2 1848.3 1847.8 1811.7 1735.4 1731.4 1808.4 1859.5 1872.2 1864.2 1821.2
    2010 1836.3 1868.8 1881.2 1885.7 1920.6 1877.4 1781.4 1775.0 1833.0 1884.1 1896.7 1883.6 1860.3
    2011 1859.4 1889.4 1890.4 1890.3 1882.2 1846.8 1766.8
    Total Jobs by month

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 9541.2 9550.7 9556.8 9548.8 9544.0 9540.3 9519.5 9521.4 9504.5 9468.3 9447.9 9429.6
    2002 9421.0 9414.8 9422.3 9420.1 9430.4 9423.4 9409.1 9414.9 9422.9 9410.1 9410.5 9401.9
    2003 9395.4 9383.9 9365.9 9367.3 9360.1 9352.9 9345.0 9355.0 9368.7 9375.4 9384.6 9393.9
    2004 9420.1 9428.2 9439.1 9459.0 9468.3 9480.6 9505.1 9522.6 9516.9 9566.1 9569.7 9581.4
    2005 9605.0 9620.3 9638.9 9679.5 9693.3 9698.8 9764.0 9781.8 9809.3 9825.6 9868.6 9885.2
    2006 9925.1 9946.8 9986.6 10000.0 10025.3 10051.1 10059.3 10106.5 10139.8 10152.7 10178.2 10212.2
    2007 10230.3 10269.5 10314.1 10337.5 10362.8 10394.3 10418.5 10433.4 10452.7 10485.9 10506.5 10526.3
    2008 10561.5 10595.0 10587.7 10612.0 10616.2 10626.7 10639.9 10642.4 10607.4 10617.3 10605.2 10574.5
    2009 10524.2 10462.4 10403.5 10343.4 10318.8 10291.8 10255.9 10231.0 10220.6 10214.4 10212.0 10209.0
    2010 10234.9 10239.5 10275.0 10302.7 10357.9 10368.6 10350.3 10361.8 10361.6 10384.9 10403.3 10444.7
    2011 10471.0 10488.9 10524.2 10554.5 10556.6 10590.5 10619.8

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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    So let me see if I have this right, in your personal budget you borrow money from the bank, in this case intergovt. holdings, and put it into your bank account. You then believe that you have a balanced budget? Interesting that you have a bank that gives you a gift and doesn't expect repayment. I certainly hope it was your money lent to the budget and not someone else's.
    I can't help that yoiu don't uinderstand the difference between the debt and the deficit.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yesterday you posted following, the first set of numbers is NOT seasonally adjusted and the second set IS seasonally adjusted. Could you explain why this is??
    Yesterday I posted numbers from BLS right from the state home page, the numbers are what they are and apparently the total jobs by industry aren't seasonally adjusted as govt. jobs don't seem to fluctuate much by season especially in TX since we have such a mild winter. Not sure but what exactly is your point? Think that seasonally adjusted govt. jobs will make that much of a difference? I suggest better research on your part to determine whether or not the Obama Administration is lying to you. Keep reading the rest of the thread and get the answer to your concerns.

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, In other words, it is totally fictitious....These so called "saved jobs" are what ever Obama, and his supporters want to say they are....That is pure crap. I asked for a credible economist that could lay out the metrics, not some supporter with what they think...You can't provide that, which is no surprise really, because these "saved jobs" are a myth, they are part of the lie.

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    I had hoped that common sense would suffice, but apparently that's lacking. So here you go: http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/do...-Recession.pdf

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I can't help that yoiu don't uinderstand the difference between the debt and the deficit.
    Right, borrowing money from the bank and putting it into your budget showing a surplus is reality

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    Re: Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yet amazingly Obama took office in January and those numbers are positive, so as usual distortion is what you do best

    January 2009 8.6 million and July 2011 8.8 million jobs looks like a private sector job increase to me. Guess liberal math is different than the math the rest of us were taught.

    2009 8599.3 8566.7 8555.5 8506.2 8507.6 8510.2 8464.7 8460.7 8409.8 8398.1 8416.0 8436.9 8486.0
    2010 8282.2 8309.5 8385.5 8427.3 8474.8 8521.0 8511.7 8546.8 8531.5 8565.3 8595.5 8629.3 8481.7
    2011 8483.2 8514.4 8612.0 8674.2 8704.8 8778.9 8804.4
    Too funny, Con ...

    You post bull**** numbers and when I point out your numbers are bull**** and explain why they're bull****, rather than own your bull****, you try to claim I'm the one distorting numbers.



    When does your lying end? When are you going to begin to debate honestly?

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