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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Does this mean to you that if Bachmann is not the nominee, Republicans are sexist?
    Some? You betcha
    A majority? Maybe

    Like it or not, the traditional conservative view on women is barefoot and pregnant...

    There is no one who attacks Conservative women more than the left wing.
    Considering you and your cohorts label anything that you disagree with as "left wing", then your words dont mean much.

    And yes, Conservative women often do get a hard time by the opposition.. but it is not because they are women, but because there are so few of them, that they do stick out like a sore thumb and when they come with idiotic comments on a regular basis, then well..

    It is the same with Herman Cain.. he is black, and a front line conservative... a quite rare thing... but are people racists for being critical of him? of course not, not when he comes stupid comments and has bonehead policy ideas. And yes the same goes for Obama.

    They have blood in their eyes and hate in their hearts whenever Palin or Bachmann are mentioned, and will attack their families and every aspect of their lives. They become, as charged, deranged.
    LOL "playing victim" alert.

    Palin brought her family into her political campaigning and then like it or not they are fair game. She is the one that paraded her whole family on a very constant pace at all rallies she was at. She is the one having one of her kids hold the baby.. she is the one who pushed Bristol with her big belly into the media spotlight and she is the one that got tax payers to pay for her whole family as they always travelled with her (instead of being in school....?) when she was governor of Alaska.

    As for Bachmann.. her family is in no way being scrutinised as Palin's was/is. Her children are pretty non existent in the reports I have seen, which frankly is good. Sure her husband is in the spotlight, but that is a self inflicted wound.
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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

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    Says the guy who told us "the health care bill is dead" about a month before it passed. I think you just guaranteed 4 more years.
    Don't think the HCB is looking particularly promising at the moment. Still keeping the courts busy, though. Will have to wait for that final verdict....


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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    Iowa straw poll means absolutely nothing. Well, it does sense give GOP runners that are on the way out a door back in, but as for giving a broad view of who will get the nomination is not very accurate. I believe Mccain came in 10th in the Iowa straw poll last year. I still firmly believe Romney will get the nomination. He is the most middle ground Republican which is exactly what the GOP needs to appeal to independent voters. If the GOP goes too far right kiss your re-election goodbye. At this point my vote is still with Obama. The GOP is becoming way too conservative for me. I could live in with a man like Romney, but as for Rick Perry and Bachmann, I would probably have to leave the country for awhile.

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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    I believe this country has a problem with voting on actual facts. If a potential president has the letter D or R next to his name, it automatically disqualifies him/her from getting support from a broad range of people. Why? Because these people vote with feelings, which is very sad and a waste of vote. Many Republicans never gave Obama the light of day from the beginning. Criticizing his every move, giving Bush the credit for Osama Bin Laden, etc. No matter what Obama does, he cannot win with this somewhat average majority of people. The only way Obama could lose this upcoming election is if he loses his own parties votes. As for recent polling, I believe it shows around the 85% range that Democrats still support President Obama, which is really good news for his re-election. Im not saying your an idiot if you dont support Obama, because even myself question his actions at times, but if you truely believe ANY of the current GOP runners could do a BETTER job, you are either very well fooled or dont understand politics. Not one man in America could be running this country any faster or better than Obama right now. If the GOP wins this upcoming presidential election and democrats regain house majority, they will return the favor of completely blocking any legislation the new GOP president desires. It will become the democrats only goal to make our new president look like a failure, just as the GOP did to Obama.

    This is a VERY dangerous game American politics are playing right now. This is how democracy fails and countries collapse. I am sure the Tea Party has good intentions, but right now they are killing our countries ability to govern itself. A 10% minority in the house should not have the right to block potential legislation, its a very sad and abused power which was never intended to be used in this way. Congress needs to take a good look at potentially changing the constitution to re-enforce the balance of power in the house. People are starting to find ways to abuse the constition in ways that were never intended even if it means defaulting on our debt or potentially destroying our economy to prove a political point. The president needs to have somewhat more power than he/she does these days. The president is becoming quite a non-factor these days compared to the 50's and 60's. Large corporations and lobbists are starting to turn this country into a nation of greed and I see the American dream slowly fading if things do not get changed.
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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    I think it is very unlikely that the GOP will pick Bachmann as their candidate, but part of me hopes they do, since that would obviously lead to a devastating defeat for the GOP. I mean, the woman is literally insane. Not just like the standard sort of insane you find on the right wing. Literally, clinically, insane. She believes God gives her instructions. She believes that race wasn't an issue in the time of slavery. Her husband is very openly an anti-gay hatemonger and government fund embezzling quack. These aren't things I am making up or distorting, she openly says those things, and many more like them, all the time. Nominating her would be like nominating Gaddafi... So, while part of me does want the GOP to nominate her because it would give us an easy victory in 2012, another part of me is deeply troubled that one of the two major parties in the US could possibly actually be considering going soooo far off the rails...

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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I think it is very unlikely that the GOP will pick Bachmann as their candidate, but part of me hopes they do, since that would obviously lead to a devastating defeat for the GOP. I mean, the woman is literally insane. Not just like the standard sort of insane you find on the right wing. Literally, clinically, insane. She believes God gives her instructions. She believes that race wasn't an issue in the time of slavery. Her husband is very openly an anti-gay hatemonger and government fund embezzling quack. These aren't things I am making up or distorting, she openly says those things, and many more like them, all the time. Nominating her would be like nominating Gaddafi... So, while part of me does want the GOP to nominate her because it would give us an easy victory in 2012, another part of me is deeply troubled that one of the two major parties in the US could possibly actually be considering going soooo far off the rails...
    Indeed, and it was a similar situation re: Palin, insofar as she was (and is) so obviously unqualified that one could only look on with a mixture of horror and glee.

    In short, Democrats do not have a problem with Republican women. It is simply that the two most prominent Republican women are whackjobs. Republicans don't seem to care, so long as they're cute and willing to mouth extreme right wing talking points.

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    idea Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Bachman can't win the nomination because she's stone freakin' nuts. Batsh*t crazy.
    This is very true.

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I think it is very unlikely that the GOP will pick Bachmann as their candidate, but part of me hopes they do, since that would obviously lead to a devastating defeat for the GOP.
    So let me see if I understand your point of view. You do not like the status quo, but you would rather deal with the status quo and defeat the GOP regardless of what you might actually believe is good for the country. One could argue that Obama is really Bush III and Bachmann/Romney/Perry are Bush IV. If you really want to change the status quo (for example, do the stuff that Obama promised but has not delivered) look at the only candidate who will. It sure as hell isn't any one mentioned above. Hint he came in second in that "irrelevant poll".
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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    This is very true.


    So let me see if I understand your point of view. You do not like the status quo, but you would rather deal with the status quo and defeat the GOP regardless of what you might actually believe is good for the country. One could argue that Obama is really Bush III and Bachmann/Romney/Perry are Bush IV. If you really want to change the status quo (for example, do the stuff that Obama promised but has not delivered) look at the only candidate who will. It sure as hell isn't any one mentioned above. Hint he came in second in that "irrelevant poll".
    Speaking for myself, the only problem with the status quo is that there are too many republicans in Congress, and the ones who are there are far too willing to sacrifice the good of the country in order to score a point against Obama.

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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    So let me see if I understand your point of view. You do not like the status quo, but you would rather deal with the status quo and defeat the GOP regardless of what you might actually believe is good for the country.
    Huh? I didn't say anything about the status quo. Obviously Democrats, even the worst Democrat, is WAAAAAAY better for the country than even the best Republican. The problem we have right now is the Congressional Republicans/Tea Baggers.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    One could argue that Obama is really Bush III and Bachmann/Romney/Perry are Bush IV.
    That would be totally insane... I think you're confusing what the government as a whole does with what individual politicians push for. Like say that the country's policy on something can range between 1 and 10. The Republican wants 10 and the Democrat wants 1. Currently it is at 5. So, the Republican pushes for 6 and the Democrat pushes for 4. Not because that would be their ideal situation, but because it might actually pass and is, in their view, an improvement on the status quo. Bachmann's "10" is a hellish theocracy dominated by corporations in which women and non-christians have radically scaled back rights. Bush's "10" is a world without muslims where a handful of billionaires rule over the workers like feudal lords. Obama's "1" is a country where everybody has a decent shot at making it regardless of how wealthy or poor their parents are.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    If you really want to change the status quo (for example, do the stuff that Obama promised but has not delivered) look at the only candidate who will. It sure as hell isn't any one mentioned above. Hint he came in second in that "irrelevant poll".
    I actually have a strange respect for Ron Paul. He may be a bit crazy, but he's smart and spins an interesting yarn. That said, in reality his whole platform just boils down to "cede control of the country to the corporations".
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    Re: Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll, keeps momentum

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I think it is very unlikely that the GOP will pick Bachmann as their candidate, but part of me hopes they do, since that would obviously lead to a devastating defeat for the GOP. I mean, the woman is literally insane. Not just like the standard sort of insane you find on the right wing. Literally, clinically, insane. She believes God gives her instructions. She believes that race wasn't an issue in the time of slavery. Her husband is very openly an anti-gay hatemonger and government fund embezzling quack. These aren't things I am making up or distorting, she openly says those things, and many more like them, all the time. Nominating her would be like nominating Gaddafi... So, while part of me does want the GOP to nominate her because it would give us an easy victory in 2012, another part of me is deeply troubled that one of the two major parties in the US could possibly actually be considering going soooo far off the rails...
    LOL.

    Anything the GOP roles out is better than the abortion of an embarassment you guys elected in 2008. They'll be writing books about the current trainwreck a hundred years from now.

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