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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    My father always told me Americans have a very bad short term memory and now I am beginning to understand why. The GOP is going to make it their best efforts to convince Americans Obama is responsible for our economic problems, not the GOP. As sad as it is, some Americans will buy this lie, but the educated Americans, which are becoming quite a minority these days, fully understand the dangers and cancers the GOP along with Rick Perry posess to the future of America.

    Do Americans really want another TEXAS GOVERNER who claims god speaks to him running this country? Do Americans understand this man was willing to break texas off from the United States? How could Americans possibly support a man who virtually gave up on America. How could Americans be willing to hand this nation back over the GOP? Has the GOP Every had ANY great presidential administrations to write him about? I fear for America, and I fear Americans may actually be stupid enough to support a Rick Perry.
    Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.

    Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down, Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.


    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    perrry and bachmann? please god.
    The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    And here we go; it's only been a few days and Perry is already proving to be a complete weather vane. He and Romney should have a flip flopping contest.

    "For years, Gov. Rick Perry has taken flak for his 2007 attempt to require girls to be vaccinated against the human papillomavirus, the most commonly sexually transmitted disease and the principal cause of cervical cancer. At the risk of angering fellow conservatives, Perry has always insisted he did the right thing.

    That unapologetic approach changed this weekend."

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    "In recent weeks Perry has also sought to clarify his 10th Amendment-friendly statements on other hot-button issues. A few weeks before jumping into the race, Perry said in Aspen, Colo., that gay marriage should be left up to the individual states. Gay marriage in New York?

    “That’s their business,” Perry said. Later, in Houston, Perry said he would allow states to set abortion policy if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned some day as he hopes.

    The statements prompted criticism among Christian conservatives. Perry also took a pounding from former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, a struggling GOP presidential candidate and social conservative, who criticized his laissez-faire approach. Perry has since begun stressing the need for federal constitutional bans on both gay marriage and abortion."



    Under Scrutiny, Perry Walks Back HPV Decision — Rick Perry | The Texas Tribune

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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    I will cancel out your vote.

    The new prophets and apostles believe Christians--certain Christians--are destined to not just take "dominion" over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the "Seven Mountains" of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they're intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they're leading an "army of God" to commandeer civilian government.
    Rachel Maddow: Rick Perry May Be The Face Of A Christian Movement Seeking Political Domination (VIDEO)

    CHRISTIAN RECONSTRUCTIONISM, DOMINION THEOLOGY AND THEONOMY
    "These belief systems find a voice in Christian Reconstructionism -- a political movement to convert the United States -- and eventually the entire earth -- into a theocracy in which dissenters, adulterers, sexually active homosexuals, some sexually active bisexuals, witches, sorcerers, etc. would be exterminated."

    Perry, she said, had just held a prayer event with "a specific Christian political movement...that seems to want a Rick Perry candidacy to be their political vehicle."

    I fear for this country.
    Where have you been the last 50 years. If you look at the struggle for morality in this country over that period and you kept a scorecard over who is stealthily taking dominion over the govermnet, the media, arts and entertainment, etc., the Christians and other religions who promote their conservative brand of morality have been beaten in a landslide. The morality they would like to see taught in our schools and shown in the media has steadily been ignored. Those institutions have been taken over by the securalists and non-religious factions in this country to a large degree. When it comes to things like pornography, abortion, sexuality, adultry, divorce and whatever you want to throw out there Christianity has lost the war. Open up your eyes. This mess we find our country in has nothing to do with adopting Christian values it has to do with rejecting them. Not to say I specifically agree with all of what the Christian factions would want but they are pretty powerless to do much about where this country is heading. Rick Perry is not going to change that.

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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.

    Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down, Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.




    The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
    Bush had a republican congress and senate, when he started running the economy into the ground.

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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.

    Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down, Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.




    The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
    I hope your kidding. You do realize that if Bachmann was president, she would have refused to raise the debt ceiling. Have you seen wallstreet? If we wouldnt have raised the debt ceiling the markets could have collapsed and I cant even imagine what our credit rating would be. Lets just hope Americans are more intelligent compared to your small minority group. If ANYTHING a Mitt Romney could be acceptable, but a michelle Bachmann? Come on bro, you cant possibly be that arrogant. This lady is crazy.
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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Bush had a republican congress and senate, when he started running the economy into the ground.
    Which means the policies of both parties was at fault right? I don't think it's fair to look at Bush and say "Republicans did it" while ignoring that he had a Dem senate that pushed for deficit spending. Obama had two years of Democrat monopoly in congress and nothing was fixed. His stimulus bill failed and only plunged us deeper in debt. I think the economy is more complex than party lines, but I don't think it's fair or right to blame the collapse on Republicans and for people to proclaim that Obama has saved us and is turning the economy around.

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    I hope your kidding. You do realize that if Bachmann was president, she would have refused to raise the debt ceiling. Have you seen wallstreet? If we wouldnt have raised the debt ceiling the markets could have collapsed and I cant even imagine what our credit rating would be. Lets just home Americans are more intelligent compared to your small minority group. If ANYTHING a Mitt Romney could be acceptable, but a michelle Bachmann? Come on bro, you cant possibly be that arrogant. This lady is crazy.
    Do I have to agree with Bachmann on everything? I would have raised the debt ceiling but made cuts to programs more so than what happened. I view Obama as crazy. As a senator he was one of the most liberal Democrats in congress. He's spent and spent and spent while acting like an arrogant child towards any opposition he may face. His answer is "blame Bush, blame the Republicans" to pretty much everything wrong with this country. I would certainly hope Americans are intelligent enough to see through Obama and understand that his policies are only bankrupting the country. I'm not saying that Bachmann is the best choice, I'm just saying she (and Perry) would be better choices than Obama.
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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Which means the policies of both parties was at fault right? I don't think it's fair to look at Bush and say "Republicans did it" while ignoring that he had a Dem senate that pushed for deficit spending. Obama had two years of Democrat monopoly in congress and nothing was fixed. His stimulus bill failed and only plunged us deeper in debt. I think the economy is more complex than party lines, but I don't think it's fair or right to blame the collapse on Republicans and for people to proclaim that Obama has saved us and is turning the economy around.



    Do I have to agree with Bachmann on everything? I would have raised the debt ceiling but made cuts to programs more so than what happened. I view Obama as crazy. As a senator he was one of the most liberal Democrats in congress. He's spent and spent and spent while acting like an arrogant child towards any opposition he may face. His answer is "blame Bush, blame the Republicans" to pretty much everything wrong with this country. I would certainly hope Americans are intelligent enough to see through Obama and understand that his policies are only bankrupting the country. I'm not saying that Bachmann is the best choice, I'm just saying she (and Perry) would be better choices than Obama.
    I dont see a failing economy anywhere? Our economy is growing, but growing slowly. You know whats keeping it from taking off? The Republican party. They are doing their best efforts to downplay any piece of legislation that has the name Obama next to it. Just like the debt ceiling. If Republicans would have been willing to meet America's polution demands such as increasing taxes on the super wealthy, Obama would have reached a grand bargain deal with Republicans and we would currently be on our way to a much quicker economic recovery. Republicans did not want this at all costs, even if it meant destroying the economy for temporary political gain. The GOP is responsible for ALL current failed attempts of economic growth. They have one goal, make Obama fail, even if it means killing jobs and tanking the American economy, and thats a FACT my friend.
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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Which means the policies of both parties was at fault right? I don't think it's fair to look at Bush and say "Republicans did it" while ignoring that he had a Dem senate that pushed for deficit spending. Obama had two years of Democrat monopoly in congress and nothing was fixed. His stimulus bill failed and only plunged us deeper in debt. I think the economy is more complex than party lines, but I don't think it's fair or right to blame the collapse on Republicans and for people to proclaim that Obama has saved us and is turning the economy around.



    Do I have to agree with Bachmann on everything? I would have raised the debt ceiling but made cuts to programs more so than what happened. I view Obama as crazy. As a senator he was one of the most liberal Democrats in congress. He's spent and spent and spent while acting like an arrogant child towards any opposition he may face. His answer is "blame Bush, blame the Republicans" to pretty much everything wrong with this country. I would certainly hope Americans are intelligent enough to see through Obama and understand that his policies are only bankrupting the country. I'm not saying that Bachmann is the best choice, I'm just saying she (and Perry) would be better choices than Obama.
    He makes those statements because credit is due to those responsible. Bush is responsible for our economic problems.... and how are Obamas policies killing America? If I were you, I would be happy we currently have a presidnet looking our for the best interests of people instead of corporations and drug companies. By you saying you would have no raised the debt ceiling automatically disqualifies you from any logical debate with me because now I understand you just dont know what your talking about. Every credible expert in America would have told you raising the debt ceiling was required. Why is it a problem this time? Bush had the economy on the ropes when he was president and still raised the debt ceiling 4 times. He didnt have the money to do it, and we didnt have the money to fund his wars. Now, why was it not a problem then but it is a problem now? Your arguements dont make sense.

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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.
    Which people on the right did call him when he ran for President and still do try to link him with.

    Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down,
    err yea when the economy imploded.. but he had a Republican congress when the all the warning signs were there and did nothing about it. Also it was a Republican congress under Clinton that deregulated the market so much that the crash became possible at all. So while it is correct that Bush had a democratic congress the last two years of his presidency, the economic crash was a crash waiting to happen long before that...

    Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.
    Well you see that is not factually correct. When Obama took office the country was loosing 700k jobs a month... now the country is gaining jobs and has been for a while.. Sure the economic recovery is no where near as everyone had hoped, but considering the hole the previous administration left then it is no wonder. Also "spending like crazy" is also not factual. Much of the spending is in fact leftovers from the previous administration. I am not saying that Obama has done a great job, but he has not done a horrible job at all considering the hand he was delt with plus the fact that since the last election he has had the party of NO in power in one chamber which has gridlocked everything in Washington. Personally I think Obama is weak and has not shown enough balls in dealing with the GOP and their often childish behaviour. He has also been far too weak on his own people, not getting them into line and doing stuff the first twoish years of his presidency.

    The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
    Seriously... a bat crazy religious nutjob from some backwater state and a flipflopping "pretty boy" that use to be a democrat... Obama may have a few faults, but they are nothing compared to the horror the US would go through with those two wackjobs at the helm... hell I would rather have Ron Paul!... at least he got a pair of stones and tries to stick to his principles.
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    Re: Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

    Did Obama's stimulus get us down to the 8% unemployment like he promised? Did Obama's healthcare law really preform good healthcare reform (No)? Look at how Obama is spending. He's spending like a fiscal moron and it's devaluing the dollar. Obama got us in a war with Libya and essentially mooned congress and said he would not seek approval for his military actions (Worse than Bush no?) So because I said I wouldn't raise the debt ceiling without at least trying to reform spending makes me illogical? what's illogical is handing out a blank check to a president and congress that is spending at record levels and bringing us deeper and deeper in debt. I agree that raising the debt ceiling would be required, I never denied that. What I said is that I would not have raised it unconditionally and would attempt to reform spending. This said, my priority would be to raise the ceiling to prevent America from defaulting even if my goals could not be achieved.

    Why do you think that I didn't have a problem with Bush's wars and Bush's spending? I do, and his spending was bad for our country much like how Obama's spending is bad for the country. I'll flip the question on you now. Why was it a problem for Bush to raise the debt ceiling and pay for wars while it isn't a problem for Obama to raise the debt ceiling, continue the wars, and start his own in Libya without even seeking congressional approval?
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