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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

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    So, are you going to logically address my points or post videos?
    So are you going to keep ignoring the hate and homophobia?

    Or will you argue that "Kill babies, make a lesbian" is a loving statement?
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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So, are you going to logically address my points or post videos?
    Are you going to address mine?

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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    People who oppose SSM are motivated by nothing else but homophobia and hate. Their belief about marriage are motivated by homophobia and hate. That's why the only defense you have for their bigoted hatred and homophobia is "It's not true!"
    This is not true and I've disproved this. As I said, I used to oppose SSM but had no hate behind my beliefs. I know people who still do oppose SSM and it's not due to hating homosexuals, it's due to their moral beliefs and their definition of marriage being between one man and one woman only. There may be some homophobes out there, but this doesn't mean that all people who oppose SSM are hateful and bigoted. Your beliefs and assertions of this is a bigoted and hateful action against everyone who opposes SSM. You are discriminating and applying the label of "homophobic" towards every individual who opposes SSM.

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    So are you going to keep ignoring the hate and homophobia?

    Or will you argue that "Kill babies, make a lesbian" is a loving statement?
    That statement is not loving.

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    Are you going to address mine?
    I have. Not everyone who opposes SSM does so out of hate. Most tolerate homosexuals having sex, they just define marriage with traditional values.
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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    Do you feel the love and tolerance? I sure do.

    Rick Santorum's Greatest hits.

    1. “In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be….If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.” [4/2003]

    2. “Is anyone saying same-sex couples can’t love each other? I love my children. I love my friends, my brother. Heck, I even love my mother-in-law. Should we call these relationships marriage, too?” [5/22/2008]

    3. On repeal of DADT: “I’m worried when many people will stand up and say, ‘well whatever the Generals want.’ I’m not too sure that we haven’t indoctrinated the Officer Corps in this country that they can actually see straight to make the right decisions.” [2/20/2010]

    4. On gay adoption: “A lesbian woman came up to me and said, ‘why are you denying me my right?’ I said, ‘well, because it’s not a right.’ It’s a privilege that society recognizes because society sees intrinsic value to that relationship over any other relationship.” [5/3/2011]

    5. On teaching history of gay Americans: “I certainly would not approve of [a bill moving through the California legislature compels the state to add gay history to the state education curriculum], but there’s a logical consequence to the courts injecting themselves in creating rights and people attaching their legislative ideas to those rights that in some respects could logically flow from that. So I’m not surprised.” [5/10/2011]

    RACE:
    6. “I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say ‘now we are going to decide who are people and who are not people’.” [1/19/2011]

    7. “Marriage is an institution that’s a bridge too far for too many African-American women and is not desirable among African-American males….I think [Obama] has to realize that flying to New York is…self-indulgent. Go down to the corner bar and have a drink, a shot, and a beer.” [6/2/2009]

    WOMEN:
    8. “In far too many families with young children, both parents are working, when, if they really took an honest look at the budget, they might find they don’t both need to….The radical feminists succeeded in undermining the traditional family and convincing women that professional accomplishments are the key to happiness“. ['It Takes A Family,' 7/6/2005]

    ISLAM:
    9. Santorum responded to the Pentagon’s decision rescind its invitation to evangelist Franklin Graham to speak at the upcoming National Day over his statement that Islam is “evil” by saying that Graham’s comment was “a reasonable statement at the time.” [3/23/2010]

    10. “I think the Democrats are actually worried [Obama] may go to Indonesia and bow to more Muslims.” [3/23/2010]

    11. “The creeping Sharia throughout Europe and here in this country and in Canada. The Islamization of Europe that is already on the way and will visit these shores not too soon is a concern for us and something that we need to identify and we need to talk about and we need to fight with every ounce of our being“. [2/28/2009]

    12. “Now we have the Attorney General confirming to Osama bin Laden just bide your time and the effeminate and pampered Americans will cower away.” [2/28/2009]
    Rick Santorum’s 12 Most Offensive Statements | ThinkProgress
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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is not true and I've disproved this. As I said, I used to oppose SSM but had no hate behind my beliefs. .
    You "disproved" a statement by providing an opinion? I'd love to see your reaction if gays started a movement to make heterosexual marriage illegal.

    No doubt you'd be very tolerant of such behavior because you love them so much.
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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    *Sigh* I feel like I am getting no where. If you are going to judge everyone who opposes SSM based on what Rich Santorum says (not only that, but snipped quotes from a biased liberal website) then that's a logical fallacy you are permitted to make. It's obvious that you have hatred towards those who oppose SSM and want to bigotedly judge them all as being homophobic and ruined with hatred. This action in and of itself is no better then what you falsely accuse all you oppose SSM of doing.
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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is not true and I've disproved this. As I said, I used to oppose SSM but had no hate behind my beliefs. I know people who still do oppose SSM and it's not due to hating homosexuals, it's due to their moral beliefs and their definition of marriage being between one man and one woman only. There may be some homophobes out there, but this doesn't mean that all people who oppose SSM are hateful and bigoted. Your beliefs and assertions of this is a bigoted and hateful action against everyone who opposes SSM. You are discriminating and applying the label of "homophobic" towards every individual who opposes SSM.
    You have disproven nothing. All you have done is post denials of facts which are obvious - opposition to SSM is based on bigoted hate and homophobia. That's why you can't explain how opposition to SSM is "moral" when it's irrational and immoral


    That statement is not loving.
    So now that we know what it is NOT, why don't you tell us what is IS? Do you think "kill babies, make a lesbian" is nuetral?

    How about the "homosexuality is like alcoholism"? Another loving statement?
    I have. Not everyone who opposes SSM does so out of hate. Most tolerate homosexuals having sex, they just define marriage with traditional values.[/QUOTE]
    Last edited by sangha; 08-13-11 at 01:53 PM.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    I think this Rep should just pray his gay away.

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    Re: Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You have disproven nothing. All you have done is post denials of facts which are obvious - opposition to SSM is based on bigoted hate and homophobia. That's why you can't explain how opposition to SSM is "moral" when it's irrational and immoral




    How about the "homosexuality is like alcoholism"? Another loving statement?
    I have. Not everyone who opposes SSM does so out of hate. Most tolerate homosexuals having sex, they just define marriage with traditional values.
    No it's not. Tell me how I was fueled by hatred and homophobia when I opposed SSM. You misquoting representatives cannot speak for every single individual who opposes SSM.
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