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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not so sure that you'll believe it when you see it, but if you say so....
    Ya, kinda like the "troop pullout of Iraq" where he just changed The borders of cities and replaced military with mercenaries. I'll believe things when I see them, but the fact is these things never happen, at least not the way we are told they are going to happen onthe face.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ya, kinda like the "troop pullout of Iraq" where he just changed The borders of cities and replaced military with mercenaries. I'll believe things when I see them, but the fact is these things never happen, at least not the way we are told they are going to happen onthe face.
    Yes, that's just what I mean.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    If greedy kkkhristianist kkkapitalist kkkreationist kkkaucasianisist doctors didn't have to make a bazillion dollars every year, then maybe healthcare would be affordable. They vacation in their second homes while minorities, non-christians, and the poor basically just have to deal with whatever illness comes their way. F***ing greedy f***s destroy the environment with their excessive consumption while the underprivileged classes are crushed by illness. Shame on this country.

    you forgot repbulikkkan........dude....get a grip...how can you label somebody as a kkkchristian and a kkkcreationist

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, that's just what I mean.
    Glad to know you just buy into every lie you are ever told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Glad to know you just buy into every lie you are ever told.
    What lie would that be, pray tell?

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What lie would that be, pray tell?
    You mean you're forcing me to choose just one?

    People have written full length books on the lies of politicians, and you're forcing me to choose a single one.

    The other real problem is to show a lie for what it is when a person will apologize for the lies... I mean, you've already pretty much said it, giving waivers to select companies to a law on a seemingly arbitrary basis, that is not equally available to ALL businesses IS favoritism at the least and fascist at the worst... either way is not within the bounds of the constitution. Unless you're going to take the supremacy clause out of context, or some other "loophole" that somehow justifies this as within the bounds of the constitution, when everyone knows these things at least go against the intentions of the constitution if not directly the word of the constitution.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    The really awesome thing about all of this is that the SCOTUS will overturn the healthcare bill in about 6 months (mid presidential campaign) and it will drive the final nail in the Obama re-election coffin.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And just think, we could have avoided all this nonsense if we'd just gone with the public option, which was what everyone actually wanted, instead of this mandate crap.
    I agree completely. It was a better choice.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I agree completely. It was a better choice.
    I agree that we should have the public option but it wasn't an either/or situation. The mandate is necessary to address the free rider problem with or without the public option.

    The amazing thing about the resistance to the mandate is that it was originally a Republican idea and it was sold on the basis of personal responsibility. No one should be allowed to sponge free health care because they are too cheap to buy insurance for themselves and their families. Free riders raise costs for responsible members of society who do buy insurance.

    If you drill down into this issue you reach another bizarre pinnacle of conservative illogic. The conservative response is that we should illiminate the free rider problem by simply denying medical care to anyone who doesn't have insurance, or who can't pay for it up front. Of course that puts far more pressure on individuals to purchase insurance than does any mandate, which is enforced with a modest fine. So the conservative conclusion is that it's abhorent to compel someone to buy health insurance through a modest fine, but it's perfectly okay to compel people to buy insurance through the threat that they may be left for dead if they don't! Genius.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post

    If you drill down into this issue you reach another bizarre pinnacle of conservative illogic. The conservative response is that we should illiminate the free rider problem by simply denying medical care to anyone who doesn't have insurance, or who can't pay for it up front. Of course that puts far more pressure on individuals to purchase insurance than does any mandate, which is enforced with a modest fine. So the conservative conclusion is that it's abhorent to compel someone to buy health insurance through a modest fine, but it's perfectly okay to compel people to buy insurance through the threat that they may be left for dead if they don't! Genius.
    Well those sick people should be working. Even if their heart is working at 10%!

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