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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    "HHS approved 204 new waivers in April, with 38 of those – or roughly 19 percent – going to businesses located in Pelosi’s San Francisco district."

    LOL!

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    "HHS approved 204 new waivers in April, with 38 of those – or roughly 19 percent – going to businesses located in Pelosi’s San Francisco district."

    LOL!
    Business, not Pelosi, asked for waivers - The Hill's Healthwatch

    ROFLMAO!

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no, the Appeals Court has deemed the individual mandate to be unConstitutional, not ALL of Obamacare.

    and the SCOTUS has the final say anyways, so who cares what the lower courts think.
    Without the mandate Obycare cannot fund itself.. It's dead!


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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    If greedy kkkhristianist kkkapitalist kkkreationist kkkaucasianisist doctors didn't have to make a bazillion dollars every year, then maybe healthcare would be affordable. They vacation in their second homes while minorities, non-christians, and the poor basically just have to deal with whatever illness comes their way. F***ing greedy f***s destroy the environment with their excessive consumption while the underprivileged classes are crushed by illness. Shame on this country.
    Perhaps all of the underprivileged minority, non-christian, poor, charitable environmentalists should get together, work hard, graduate near the top of their class in college, spend another 10-15 in medical school and residencies, rack up six figure debts to pay for their schooling, and then work for free, or maybe 30k a year, so people like you aren't so inconvienced.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Without the mandate Obycare cannot fund itself.. It's dead!


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    its not dead until the SCOTUS says so.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its not dead until the SCOTUS says so.
    And when it does, what then will say you? That SCOTUS is ruled by Big Pharma and Corporate America? That SCOTUS is run by a bunch of elderly hating, poor hating idiots?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And when it does, what then will say you?..
    its all depends on the logic behind their decision.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Without the mandate Obycare cannot fund itself.. It's dead!


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    Not necessarily. Try this on: instead of requiring everyone who can afford it to buy insurance, create a new income tax surcharge that EVERYONE will have to pay, which is refundable with proof of insurance. Unconstitutional? No. Exactly the same effect as the mandate? Yes. Which should tell you that the mandate is not unconstitutional.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not necessarily. Try this on: instead of requiring everyone who can afford it to buy insurance, create a new income tax surcharge that EVERYONE will have to pay, which is refundable with proof of insurance. Unconstitutional? No. Exactly the same effect as the mandate? Yes. Which should tell you that the mandate is not unconstitutional.
    interesting idea. too bad the House would never pass it and the GOP in the Senate would filibuster it.

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    Re: Appeals court rules against Obama healthcare law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not necessarily. Try this on: instead of requiring everyone who can afford it to buy insurance, create a new income tax surcharge that EVERYONE will have to pay, which is refundable with proof of insurance. Unconstitutional? No. Exactly the same effect as the mandate? Yes. Which should tell you that the mandate is not unconstitutional.
    The whole point of calling it a mandate was to avoid calling it a tax, silly..

    Politicians, especially democrats, have trouble calling a tax hike, a tax hike..

    By the way, your "idea" is the exact same thing as the mandate, no matter how much you think it isn't. Our hope is that we put people in positions of justice that are smart enough to figure our your little play on words..


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