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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    1: That FDR was elected 4 times in no way makes him the greatest President - you're arguing an appeal to popularity.
    This is true.

    2: FDR's creation of the Federal welfare state set the stage for the mess we're in now - runaway entitlement spending, spending staunchly supported/defended by the Democrats so that they might gain and retain as much politcal power as possible.
    This is another story. You basically refuse to blame the GOP for anything, including Reagan for bailing out Social Security, Bush for enacting an unfunded Drug bill that increases entitlments without subsequent increases in performance, and you ENTIRELY ignore the aspect of massive defense increases, much of it debt financed. While reasonable people accept that entitlement is a big cause of our problems, it is not the cause of our debt at the moment as all entitlements are in fact solvent at the moment. While they are projected to be huge deficit drivers (and I readily accept that), you do yourself no favors by basically acting like a massive hack who refuses to do basic math.
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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Or to bring in one of the largest abusers as our jobs czar?
    Czars seriously...... Czars have been around sense Reagan... Its not something to be afraid of man...


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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Czars seriously...... Czars have been around sense Reagan... Its not something to be afraid of man...
    Way to avoid the point. The complaint wasn't about czars. It was about who was picked.

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Yea, except they're not, lol. Conservatives play the race card much more often. You're just shooting off talking points.
    Who was the first person to cry racism in this thread? A Liberal, or a Conservative?

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Most people agree with him. The poolitical system is messed up. You'd understand if you could see past that irrational fear of everything Obama.
    Most people believe the biggest problem with our political system, is toooooooo much Obama. But, that will be fixed next year.

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the GOP was unwilling to compromise at all when it came to tax-increases or simply closing tax-loopholes. as far as they were concerned the solution to the debt would be cutting spending ONLY.

    this is not compromise.
    The Republicans won the midterms. It's the Dems that should have compromised. Losers compromise, winners don't.

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    there IS something wrong with our political system. it's SUPPOSED to be about compromise, that's why we don't have a monarchy.
    If I remember correctly when Obama came won in 2009 he told republicans "elections have consequences" and the only compromising between 2009-2010 was between Democrats. Funny how folks have such short ( or convenient) memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Wow, you're a complete idiot, you might want to realize some things:

    1. Obama not a socialist
    He just walks like a socialist, talks like a socialist, and acts like a socialist, but you're right, he calls himself a liberal and a constitutional lawyer, meanwhile it would seem that he studied on ways to circumvent the constitution.

    2. He was correct in saying that something is wrong with the politics of this nation. I see it as a problem when PACs can run ads for a political campaign and donate unlimited amounts of money to a campaign and then just disappear, without anyone knowing who did the donating.
    Ya, he was right in the sense, like if someone breaks into your house at night and wakes you up to tell you that your house is being robbed is also correct.

    Ya, this is just a new addition to the long list of illegality in politics.

    3. From the article:

    His toughly worded message - he said there was frustration in his voice, in case anyone missed the point - came amid a series of polls showing that people are disgusted with political dysfunction and are dispensing blame all around, including on Obama.
    Ya, and now Obama, who is just as criminal as most other politicians, is attempting to posture himself as the good guy, the man of the people.

    Thus the people are disgusted with Washington as a whole not just solely with Obama, but of course, you can't notice that for your partisan hackery.

    Edit: Grammar, thanks ecofarm :P
    this much I agree with, even Obamas support base has been dissolving.

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    If I remember correctly when Obama came won in 2009 he told republicans "elections have consequences" and the only compromising between 2009-2010 was between Democrats. Funny how folks have such short ( or convenient) memories.
    What did Obama say about how the Republicans had to, "sit in the back seat"? Or, "don't tell me how to hold the mop"? Oh and my favorite, "we won".

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Republicans won the midterms. It's the Dems that should have compromised. Losers compromise, winners don't.
    Didn't see a speck of compromise from '08 to '10. Try again.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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