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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    bring back the worst president ever? hell with that!!
    So you "think" that the people elected FDR to four terms because he was the worst President Ever? Do you believe in having the people elect the President or would you like to appoint the president? Have you ever noticed how President Obama and FDR seem to have shared some of the same visions? Great minds think alike

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    So you "think" that the people elected FDR to four terms because he was the worst President Ever? Do you believe in having the people elect the President or would you like to appoint the president? Have you ever noticed how President Obama and FDR seem to have shared some of the same visions? Great minds think alike
    buying votes does not make a good president.

    history indicates that his policies were not just wrong, they were economically ignorant.

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Don't worry, he found a black guy that disagree's with Obama. That proves Obama sucks, case closed.
    Felonius Monk... (dare I say it)... for Prez? Sounds like he's got his head on straight.
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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    I -love- how The Obama speaks like He and His people aren't part of the problem.

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    When I see responces like this it makes me wonder who exactly is the government? Do we elect a government? You want the government to do less instead of more do you have any thing speciifics in mind or is it just a generalization, do you think we should remove stop signs or let people drive on either side of the road what exactly is it that you want deregulated? We need to bring back the greatest President the only President to ever be elected 4 times President Franklin D Roosevelt
    Oh, I have specifics. I would love to see the federal government phase out SS, Medicare and all other social programs. I'd like to see a lot of the overly restrictive regulations (i.e. TSA) go away. There are way to many specifics to list, but I do have specifics.
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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Frankly I'm sick of Obama bitching about the state of American politics. Although he's right that our political system is increasingly dysfunctional, he is the worst possible spokesman for that message. Voters eat that up when you're a candidate running for president...but when you actually ARE the president and you're whining about our political system, it makes you look ineffective at best and the source of the problem at worst. Obama needs to stop being a whiny little bitch and work to reform it if it's so dysfunctional. Has he proposed ANY serious action (either as a senator or as president) to reform our legislative process? Not that I am aware of.

    I suggest the following steps to reform our political system:

    1. Eliminate the filibuster. There is nothing in the Constitution mandating a 60-vote supermajority for legislation to pass the Senate, and this tactic wasn't even widely used until just a few decades ago. It would eliminate a lot of the gridlock and give us a more representative government if a simple majority vote was the required threshold in the Senate, as it is in the House.

    2. Institute term limits. This would require a constitutional amendment, and I realize that it would be difficult to get congresspeople to vote to put themselves out of work. So I suggest a grandfather clause, to allow anyone who was currently serving in Congress at the time the amendment was ratified to continue serving indefinitely...and going forward, anyone else would be limited to a certain length of time in Congress.

    3. Bring back the bipartisan lunches and events that Congress used to have. I know this sounds small, but never underestimate the impact of people actually getting to know one another as colleagues, instead of as "the opposition" on television. I think that this would be a very easy way to encourage cooperation and civility in Congress. It's much more difficult for people to launch vicious attacks on their friends on cable television, if they're going to have lunch with them the next day.
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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    We need to bring back the greatest President the only President to ever be elected 4 times President Franklin D Roosevelt
    1: That FDR was elected 4 times in no way makes him the greatest President - you're arguing an appeal to popularity.
    2: FDR's creation of the Federal welfare state set the stage for the mess we're in now - runaway entitlement spending, spending staunchly supported/defended by the Democrats so that they might gain and retain as much politcal power as possible.

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    I -love- how The Obama speaks like He and His people aren't part of the problem.
    how is this any different than any other politicians?

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    1: That FDR was elected 4 times in no way makes him the greatest President - you're arguing an appeal to popularity.
    2: FDR's creation of the Federal welfare state set the stage for the mess we're in now - runaway entitlement spending, spending staunchly supported/defended by the Democrats so that they might gain and retain as much politcal power as possible.
    Purely GOP talking points, without FDR this country would no longer exist as a republic, my guess is that we would be talking German or Japanese. President Obama does not have the benefit of a senate and congress that is united in a common effort to deal with an economy that was in total collapse when he took office, There are to many hands reaching out to plunder the last dollars left.

    We do have a spending problem but it is used to mask the real problems we face today, the under employed or unemployed. Tax dollars that should have been used to create american jobs have been used to create jobs in foreign countries. The GOP's answer is to further erode our tax base by increasing unemployment in the USA, I want to see the day when cutting spending decreases unemployment.

    The only real answer is to get the government involved in job creation here in America not in China or some other country, I can't believe that tax payer dollars are actually used to help corporations relocate over seas

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    Re: Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Purely GOP talking points, without FDR this country would no longer exist as a republic, my guess is that we would be talking German or Japanese. President Obama does not have the benefit of a senate and congress that is united in a common effort to deal with an economy that was in total collapse when he took office, There are to many hands reaching out to plunder the last dollars left.

    We do have a spending problem but it is used to mask the real problems we face today, the under employed or unemployed. Tax dollars that should have been used to create american jobs have been used to create jobs in foreign countries. The GOP's answer is to further erode our tax base by increasing unemployment in the USA, I want to see the day when cutting spending decreases unemployment.

    The only real answer is to get the government involved in job creation here in America not in China or some other country, I can't believe that tax payer dollars are actually used to help corporations relocate over seas
    Or to bring in one of the largest abusers as our jobs czar?

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