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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    It was the guys who got Bin Laden if the few media reports are to believed... really sucks.
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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It was the guys who got Bin Laden if the few media reports are to believed... really sucks.
    Same unit, not necessarily the exact same guys.

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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Dude, these terrorists are beating the best army in history, they've been surviving for the past 10 years and don't seem to be going away anytime soon. What do you not understand out that?
    The stupidity of your argument is epic. Thousands of years of history suggest that to be the case.

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    Thank you for your service.

    Doesn't take away from the fact that you're mistaken about Vietnam.
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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Care to point to the battles we lost; how they inflicted heavier casualties upon us with their overwhelming combat power? Who did we surrender to, Giap? When did the retreat take place?

    I can't wait to hear your version of the history of the war.
    We lost 58,200 or so Americans in the war.

    And when all was said and done, we left and the country was in control of the communists. How you can suggest that was anything less than a loss is amazing. But typical from those on the far right whose revising of history is their daily bread.

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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The stupidity of your argument is epic. Thousands of years of history suggest that to be the case.
    I'm not so sure. Formal armies do not fare well against guerrilla tactics, especially when the guerrillas can exist in some of the harshest conditions and with very little.

    A study of Geronimo will bear this out. he terrorized two countries and their armies for roughly 20 years with usually about 30 warriors at any given time. Large armies require huge logistics, guerrillas don't require very much at all.

    When your enemy is invisible it's pretty hard to get a good aim on him.

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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

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    God rest their souls.

    We need to get the **** out of the ME once and for all.
    I don't usually agree with you, but I agree, with one stipulation. We give the generals of the Armed Forces the 2 years the asked for in the Middle East. "unleashed" no restrictions other than they are not allowed to break the Geneva Convention. After that we pull out.
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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Dude, these terrorists are beating the best army in history, they've been surviving for the past 10 years and don't seem to be going away anytime soon. What do you not understand out that?
    No, our politicians are beating the best army in history.
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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    We lost 58,200 or so Americans in the war.

    And when all was said and done, we left and the country was in control of the communists. How you can suggest that was anything less than a loss is amazing. But typical from those on the far right whose revising of history is their daily bread.
    Actually, the commies weren't in control of the country when our army pulled out, but hey, don't let the facts blurr your revisionist history.

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    Re: 31 American Troops Killed In NATO Helicopter Crash In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    I'm not so sure. Formal armies do not fare well against guerrilla tactics, especially when the guerrillas can exist in some of the harshest conditions and with very little.
    It depends on the tactics being used against the guerillas. The British saw alot of success against the Boars and in Indonesia.

    A study of Geronimo will bear this out. he terrorized two countries and their armies for roughly 20 years with usually about 30 warriors at any given time. Large armies require huge logistics, guerrillas don't require very much at all.
    What happened in the end?

    When your enemy is invisible it's pretty hard to get a good aim on him.
    No army is invisible, you just have to know what to look for.

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