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United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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I didn't say the LFPR dropped every year -- I said every year except '07 -- height of the real estate bubble. I'll have to amend that -- it was every year except '06 and '07. You can see the clear trend in the graph linked below. The labor force grew consistently throughout Clinton's presidency, then fell consistency through Bush's presidency to the present, with a brief blip represented by the real estate bubble:

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Employment by year, January of each year

2000 136559
2001 137778
2002 135701
2003 137417
2004 138472
2005 140245
2006 143142
2007 146032
2008 146421
2009 142221
2010 138333
2011 139323

Labor force by year which once again shows you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about

2001 143800
2002 143883
2003 145937
2004 146842
2005 148029
2006 150214
2007 153133
2008 154060
2009 154185
2010 153353
2011 153186
 
He had more control of the Congres than Bush ever did, Pelosi and Reid, you for some reason you expected Bush to have better results with the Democrat control 2007-2008? Talk about being a partisan? Wow, what is it in that kool-aid you are drinking and what is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

Bush had far more support from Democrats in Congress than Obama has had from Republicans -- which has been close to zero.
 
Bush had far more support from Democrats in Congress than Obama has had from Republicans -- which has been close to zero.

Obama didn't need Republican support and no true conservative is ever going to support the leftwing agenda promoting the nanny state that Obama wants? Obama is what you get when you elect a Community agitator to the Presidency.
 
Hate to confuse you with facts, 2 1/2 years after taking office and over two years since the end of the recession these are the results Obama has generated. The best you can do is divert and ignore those facts as you continue to buy the rhetoric. Looks like you are actually worse than a squirrel
LET ME MAKE THIS SIMPLE FOR YOU...............

If Bush cut down the cherry tree on his watch, do you blame Obama for not having cherries? Can you blame Obama for new cherry trees that have not had time to develop? That is how asinine your remarks are. Bush borrow and spent trillions, Bush cut taxes letting trillions disappear he needed for two wars, bush bailed billionaires out, and the damage the asshole did will take years to recover from. That is why they call it a recovery. Just because you want instant gratification after ****ing over the "black" Obama Administration with "DO WHATEVER IT TAKES," doesn't mean you can now blame Obama for your own shortfalls. LOL!
 
Employment by year, January of each year

2000 136559
2001 137778
2002 135701
2003 137417
2004 138472
2005 140245
2006 143142
2007 146032
2008 146421
2009 142221
2010 138333
2011 139323

Labor force by year which once again shows you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about

2001 143800
2002 143883
2003 145937
2004 146842
2005 148029
2006 150214
2007 153133
2008 154060
2009 154185
2010 153353
2011 153186

OMG, please tell me you know the difference between total labor force and the labor RATE.

LFPR.JPG
 
LET ME MAKE THIS SIMPLE FOR YOU...............

If Bush cut down the cherry tree on his watch, do you blame Obama for not having cherries? Can you blame Obama for new cherry trees that have not had time to develop? That is how asinine your remarks are. Bush borrow and spent trillions, Bush cut taxes letting trillions disappear he needed for two wars, bush bailed billionaires out, and the damage the asshole did will take years to recover from. That is why they call it a recovery. Just because you want instant gratification after ****ing over the "black" Obama Administration with "DO WHATEVER IT TAKES," doesn't mean you can now blame Obama for your own shortfalls. LOL!

I blame Obama for the results in 2011 unless Bush somehow got back into the WH in 2011. Keep ignoring the Obama results and do what liberals always do, blame someone else for their own failures.

Here are those results once again, please explain how that can happen and be Bush's fault considering 2010 showed better GDP growth numbers?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Obama didn't need Republican support and no true conservative is ever going to support the leftwing agenda promoting the nanny state that Obama wants? Obama is what you get when you elect a Community agitator to the Presidency.

Coming from the guy who now says there are NO TRUE cons left. ie. Military machine, Faith Based Charity's, Consolidation of a centralized government, etc.
 
Oh, good God, when does school start?

I don't know, but you should sign up for classes IMMEDIATELY. While you're at it, sign up for a math class so you can learn the difference between a raw number and a rate and the importance of reading a whole equation as opposed to only half an equation.
 
I blame Obama for the results in 2011 unless Bush somehow got back into the WH in 2011. Keep ignoring the Obama results and do what liberals always do, blame someone else for their own failures.

Here are those results once again, please explain how that can happen and be Bush's fault considering 2010 showed better GDP growth numbers?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

So you actually think Black Obama is responsible for republican failures? Yep, makes sense folks. Bush invaded Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia where all the terrorists were home grown, trained, and gave us 911. With logic like that I can understand how cons can be confused.
 
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Correction: Republicans acted like Republicans during the Bush administration. Republicans cut taxes and increase spending, thus jacking up deficits.


No, you have bought into the revisionist pablum spoon fed you by the shills over at MSNBC. The repubs cut taxes for EVERYONE, as evidenced by Obama extending them. To continue the line of class warfare that 'progressives' like Obama want to fool you with is just plain wrong.

The Republicans along with demo's in the congress passed these spending measures, now that times are getting tough somehow demo's want you to forget their votes in these things. It is dishonest.

j-mac
 
So you actually think Black Obama is responsible for republican failures? Yep, makes sense folks. Bush invaded Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia where all the terrorists were home grown, trained, and gave us 911. With logic like that I can understand how cons can be confused.

Why inject race into it? Are you a racist?

j-mac
 
Why inject race into it? Are you a racist?

j-mac

Oh, I am no racist. I guess know racism when I see it from the Do Whatever it takes to make Obama and America fail crowd. Are you a Racist? KKK member perhaps?
 
Oh, I am no racist. I guess know racism when I see it from the Do Whatever it takes to make Obama and America fail crowd. Are you a Racist? KKK member perhaps?


Nope, So please outline for us here what you saw in the post that you responded to that shows racism.

j-mac
 
Hate to confuse you with facts, 2 1/2 years after taking office and over two years since the end of the recession these are the results Obama has generated. The best you can do is divert and ignore those facts as you continue to buy the rhetoric. Looks like you are actually worse than a squirrel

Squirrel!!!!!

:coffeepap
 
No, you have bought into the revisionist pablum spoon fed you by the shills over at MSNBC. The repubs cut taxes for EVERYONE, as evidenced by Obama extending them. To continue the line of class warfare that 'progressives' like Obama want to fool you with is just plain wrong.

The Republicans along with demo's in the congress passed these spending measures, now that times are getting tough somehow demo's want you to forget their votes in these things. It is dishonest.

j-mac

Hold republicans responsible for what republicans did, and don't try to blame democrats for what republicans did. BOTH parties are responsible for their own actions.
 
Hold republicans responsible for what republicans did, and don't try to blame democrats for what republicans did. BOTH parties are responsible for their own actions.


Both parties voted for spending on the wars, both parties voted for the tax cuts, both parties voted to increase spending in other areas...So why are you being dishonest here?

j-mac
 
Nope, So please outline for us here what you saw in the post that you responded to that shows racism.

j-mac

“Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)

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Limbaugh: Obama & Oprah Are Only Successful Because They’re Black
 
“Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)

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Limbaugh: Obama & Oprah Are Only Successful Because They’re Black

That is an absolutely lame argument, results matter and the Obama results are something you want to divert from. Tell me what is racist about the 2011 results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
 
Both parties voted for spending on the wars, both parties voted for the tax cuts, both parties voted to increase spending in other areas...So why are you being dishonest here?

j-mac

Both parties voted to let Bush decide on war, a cowardly act to be sure, but the decision to go to war was solely Bush's. And I have just said both parties are responsible, what's is dishonest about that? Both parties had times when they controlled it all, and neither did squat that was different. Remember, I'm the one here not blaming one party for everything. You're the one making excuses for republicans. ;)
 
That is an absolutely lame argument, results matter and the Obama results are something you want to divert from. Tell me what is racist about the 2011 results?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

The rightwing is racist in general and you can deny deny all you want dude. No president has ever faced the resentful animosity this black man has. Prove me wrong dude, because everybody else is onto the White boy crap being played in America. Maybe you are just slow, inexperienced, or a KKK member hiding in the closet.

But Fox News has repeatedly attacked Obama's religious faith and family, promoted questions about his birthplace, called him anti-American, accused him of racism, and used the tiniest of pretenses to vilify him.

Other people agree with me. Do whatever it takes to make Obama fail, has meaning dude. Take off your racist blinders and look past your cross on the lawn. And don't you lie to me dude. Don't even try it.
 
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The rightwing is racist in general and you can deny deny all you want dude. No president has ever faced the resentful animosity this black man has. Prove me wrong dude, because everybody else is onto the White boy crap being played in America. Maybe you are just slow, inexperienced, or a KKK member hiding in the closet.

But Fox News has repeatedly attacked Obama's religious faith and family, promoted questions about his birthplace, called him anti-American, accused him of racism, and used the tiniest of pretenses to vilify him.

Other people agree with me. Do whatever it takes to make Obama fail, has meaning dude. Take off your racist blinders and look past your cross on the lawn. And don't you lie to me dude. Don't even try it.

Prove it, waiting for documented non partisan proof.
 
“Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)

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Limbaugh: Obama & Oprah Are Only Successful Because They’re Black

Maybe you didn't understand, I asked you what in Conservatives postings lead you to believe that he is posting from a racist position? Is Conservative, Rush Limbaugh? Is he Rep. Lamborn? Or is it that anyone that disagrees with the destructive policies of this President are going to be smeared with a racism charge?

j-mac
 
Both parties voted to let Bush decide on war, a cowardly act to be sure, but the decision to go to war was solely Bush's.

Bush's action, as well as the funding for these wars were voted for by Demo's in Congress. Regardless of your spin of the actual facts.

And I have just said both parties are responsible, what's is dishonest about that?

No, you really didn't. Although you make some revisionist argument about demo's and republicans abdicating their responsibility concerning Iraq, you then move to place all blame on Bush alone. It is a dishonest argument at its core.

Both parties had times when they controlled it all, and neither did squat that was different.

Are you prepared to hold demo's accountable for that?

Remember, I'm the one here not blaming one party for everything.

How are you, and how will you hold demo's accountable?

You're the one making excuses for republicans.

Are you really trying to say that you are not making excuses for demo's when you started this post with a huge excuse?

j-mac
 
Bush's action, as well as the funding for these wars were voted for by Demo's in Congress. Regardless of your spin of the actual facts.

j, we've been down this road before, the vote was to let Bush decide. That's all it was.

No, you really didn't. Although you make some revisionist argument about demo's and republicans abdicating their responsibility concerning Iraq, you then move to place all blame on Bush alone. It is a dishonest argument at its core.

They did abdicate their responsibility, pure and simple. You know you're in trouble when Bird is the only one standing up for the constitution. They did not vote to go to war, war was not declared after their vote. They left it up to Bush to decide.

Are you prepared to hold demo's accountable for that?

Of course. I write the dems as much as I write the republicans. We should not be happy with either.

How are you, and how will you hold demo's accountable?

Where possible, I'll vote against them. You can't run a tea party nutter like King in iowa and expect my vote, true. But if there is a valid alternative, I will vote agianst them. I don't expect you to vote for a 9/11 nutter either, but I would think you would act as I do. Party should not be the issue, but what each elected leader does.


Are you really trying to say that you are not making excuses for demo's when you started this post with a huge excuse?

j-mac

Truth is not making an excuse. And while I dispute your reading, their being cowardly is not excusing them. They should have done their damn job. They didn't. None of them who passed the buck should have kept their seat.
 
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