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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    J-Mac you have some serious growing up to do. Not all liberals think alike just as not all conservatives think alike. Some liberals think TARP did good, most don't. Just as some conservatives think gay marriage should be legal and most think it should be illegal. The fact you are so ridiculously partisan to realize that says more about you gor sure and not in a good way.

    It's funny how Conservative and Prof blame Obama for the downgrade when it's congress that controls the pursestrings.

    I have no doubt if the teabaggers hadn't made this so dysfunctional that we would not have been downgraded. They wanted no increase in the debt, that simply was not possible and even the GOP realized that. But since the teabaggrrs threw a tantrum, the world saw just how bad our government can't get along.

    Also amusing that Teabaggers say cuts are necessary but have no problem with Corporate welfare and rewarding companies that send jobs overseas with cuts in taxes.

    Oh, I have the growing up to do, yet you are the one in here posting misrepresentations, and calling childish names with a snarky snicker....yeah, I'm the one that needs to grow....

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    J-Mac you have some serious growing up to do. Not all liberals think alike just as not all conservatives think alike. Some liberals think TARP did good, most don't. Just as some conservatives think gay marriage should be legal and most think it should be illegal. The fact you are so ridiculously partisan to realize that says more about you gor sure and not in a good way.

    It's funny how Conservative and Prof blame Obama for the downgrade when it's congress that controls the pursestrings.

    I have no doubt if the teabaggers hadn't made this so dysfunctional that we would not have been downgraded. They wanted no increase in the debt, that simply was not possible and even the GOP realized that. But since the teabaggrrs threw a tantrum, the world saw just how bad our government can't get along.

    Also amusing that Teabaggers say cuts are necessary but have no problem with Corporate welfare and rewarding companies that send jobs overseas with cuts in taxes.
    I wonder what your attitude would be today if a Republican generated these results 2 1/2 years after taking office?

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
    Would you be so patient and defend that Republican like you are defending Obama?

    Typical liberal talking points, "corporate welfare", "sending jobs overseas", "tax cuts for the rich." Wonder when liberals will get off the talking points and actually do something constructive for the govt. and that being cutting spending and accepting personal responsibility?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    how dare you compare the tea party of today with the actual patriots of yesterday. really?

    "How dare you"....

    One can almost envision the pursed lips, and angry brow here can't you?


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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I wonder what your attitude would be today if a Republican generated these results 2 1/2 years after taking office?



    Would you be so patient and defend that Republican like you are defending Obama?

    Typical liberal talking points, "corporate welfare", "sending jobs overseas", "tax cuts for the rich." Wonder when liberals will get off the talking points and actually do something constructive for the govt. and that being cutting spending and accepting personal responsibility?
    I'm defending Obama ONLY on the credit rating because it was congress actions and inactions for the past couple of decades that put us where we are now and not obamas fault. Sorry but those are the FACTs.

    I have fault with many things that Obama has done like the bailouts, health care etc.

    I would even be willing to vote in a socially moderate/liberal and fiscally conservative republican. However the GOP likes to put up bible thumpers hell bent on makng gay marriage illegal, marijuanna illegal, and giving the rich cuts while sticking it to the
    Middle class and supporting compainies with tax cuts that send jobs overseas.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm defending Obama ONLY on the credit rating because it was congress actions and inactions for the past couple of decades that put us where we are now and not obamas fault. Sorry but those are the FACTs.

    I have fault with many things that Obama has done like the bailouts, health care etc.

    I would even be willing to vote in a socially moderate/liberal and fiscally conservative republican. However the GOP likes to put up bible thumpers hell bent on makng gay marriage illegal, marijuanna illegal, and giving the rich cuts while sticking it to the
    Middle class and supporting compainies with tax cuts that send jobs overseas.
    No, it was Obama lack of leadership that got us to this point. Where was the Obama economic plan that cut spending? Have you seen one on paper?

    Glad to see your priorities straight as the economy of this country is being destroyed, Gay Marriage? marijauanna illegal? Interesting priorities as "Rome" burns. Without a strong economy none of your issues are significant.

    Do you think keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the govt? How is allowing people to keep more of what they earn "giving people" anything?

    Pretty sad that a country built on free enterprise, capitalism has gotten to this point of class warfare and taking from one group to give to another and actiling like that was always the intent of our Founders.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obviously history isn't a strong suit of yours. You buy the talking points of liberals and ignore the actual policies being promoted by today's Tea Party. There is very little difference between the two. Low taxes and small limited Federal govt.
    that's kinda funny, since the original tea party was about TEA, and taxation without representation. it was about independence. oh, and monopolies, is that also on the agenda of today's tea partiers? could you show your work please?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm defending Obama ONLY on the credit rating because it was congress actions and inactions for the past couple of decades that put us where we are now and not obamas fault. Sorry but those are the FACTs.

    Yes, nothing is ever Obama's fault....How is it that you can with a straight face even post that?

    I tell ya, I might agree that congress is at the heart of the years of over spending, and serious problem we find ourselves in today if it weren't for the simple fact that at the end of the day what ever congress comes up with the President has to sign into law...The buck stops at his desk, and HE has approved the greatest spending spree in history in 3 short years...Yet you absolve him of all responsibility for that don't you? If he had an (R) behind his name your tune would be far different....

    I have fault with many things that Obama has done like the bailouts, health care etc.
    Why? Because you think they didn't go far enough? We haven't racked up enough debt you need more.

    I would even be willing to vote in a socially moderate/liberal and fiscally conservative republican. However the GOP likes to put up bible thumpers hell bent on makng gay marriage illegal, marijuanna illegal, and giving the rich cuts while sticking it to the
    Middle class and supporting compainies with tax cuts that send jobs overseas.
    MSNBC, DailyKOS talking point pap will not get you out of your own argument here.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And get it all back in a refund so your net is zero. Is that what liberals believe is fair share?
    As compared to GE? Please explain 'fair share' to me again.

    Earlier I brought up restoring corporate tax levels to pre-cut eras, and offering incentives right back for those that actually created jobs and it went completely un-noticed. I wonder why that is?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that's kinda funny, since the original tea party was about TEA, and taxation without representation. it was about independence. oh, and monopolies, is that also on the agenda of today's tea partiers? could you show your work please?
    And let me ask you liblady, you think that some "super-committee" of twelve putzes making decisions that effect all of us is representation?

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