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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, you have bought into the revisionist pablum spoon fed you by the shills over at MSNBC. The repubs cut taxes for EVERYONE, as evidenced by Obama extending them. To continue the line of class warfare that 'progressives' like Obama want to fool you with is just plain wrong.

    The Republicans along with demo's in the congress passed these spending measures, now that times are getting tough somehow demo's want you to forget their votes in these things. It is dishonest.

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    Hold republicans responsible for what republicans did, and don't try to blame democrats for what republicans did. BOTH parties are responsible for their own actions.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Hold republicans responsible for what republicans did, and don't try to blame democrats for what republicans did. BOTH parties are responsible for their own actions.

    Both parties voted for spending on the wars, both parties voted for the tax cuts, both parties voted to increase spending in other areas...So why are you being dishonest here?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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    Nope, So please outline for us here what you saw in the post that you responded to that shows racism.

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    “Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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    “Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

    Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)

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    That is an absolutely lame argument, results matter and the Obama results are something you want to divert from. Tell me what is racist about the 2011 results?

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Both parties voted for spending on the wars, both parties voted for the tax cuts, both parties voted to increase spending in other areas...So why are you being dishonest here?

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    Both parties voted to let Bush decide on war, a cowardly act to be sure, but the decision to go to war was solely Bush's. And I have just said both parties are responsible, what's is dishonest about that? Both parties had times when they controlled it all, and neither did squat that was different. Remember, I'm the one here not blaming one party for everything. You're the one making excuses for republicans.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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    That is an absolutely lame argument, results matter and the Obama results are something you want to divert from. Tell me what is racist about the 2011 results?

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
    The rightwing is racist in general and you can deny deny all you want dude. No president has ever faced the resentful animosity this black man has. Prove me wrong dude, because everybody else is onto the White boy crap being played in America. Maybe you are just slow, inexperienced, or a KKK member hiding in the closet.

    But Fox News has repeatedly attacked Obama's religious faith and family, promoted questions about his birthplace, called him anti-American, accused him of racism, and used the tiniest of pretenses to vilify him.

    Other people agree with me. Do whatever it takes to make Obama fail, has meaning dude. Take off your racist blinders and look past your cross on the lawn. And don't you lie to me dude. Don't even try it.
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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    The rightwing is racist in general and you can deny deny all you want dude. No president has ever faced the resentful animosity this black man has. Prove me wrong dude, because everybody else is onto the White boy crap being played in America. Maybe you are just slow, inexperienced, or a KKK member hiding in the closet.

    But Fox News has repeatedly attacked Obama's religious faith and family, promoted questions about his birthplace, called him anti-American, accused him of racism, and used the tiniest of pretenses to vilify him.

    Other people agree with me. Do whatever it takes to make Obama fail, has meaning dude. Take off your racist blinders and look past your cross on the lawn. And don't you lie to me dude. Don't even try it.
    Prove it, waiting for documented non partisan proof.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    “Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

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    Maybe you didn't understand, I asked you what in Conservatives postings lead you to believe that he is posting from a racist position? Is Conservative, Rush Limbaugh? Is he Rep. Lamborn? Or is it that anyone that disagrees with the destructive policies of this President are going to be smeared with a racism charge?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Both parties voted to let Bush decide on war, a cowardly act to be sure, but the decision to go to war was solely Bush's.
    Bush's action, as well as the funding for these wars were voted for by Demo's in Congress. Regardless of your spin of the actual facts.

    And I have just said both parties are responsible, what's is dishonest about that?
    No, you really didn't. Although you make some revisionist argument about demo's and republicans abdicating their responsibility concerning Iraq, you then move to place all blame on Bush alone. It is a dishonest argument at its core.

    Both parties had times when they controlled it all, and neither did squat that was different.
    Are you prepared to hold demo's accountable for that?

    Remember, I'm the one here not blaming one party for everything.
    How are you, and how will you hold demo's accountable?

    You're the one making excuses for republicans.
    Are you really trying to say that you are not making excuses for demo's when you started this post with a huge excuse?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Bush's action, as well as the funding for these wars were voted for by Demo's in Congress. Regardless of your spin of the actual facts.
    j, we've been down this road before, the vote was to let Bush decide. That's all it was.

    No, you really didn't. Although you make some revisionist argument about demo's and republicans abdicating their responsibility concerning Iraq, you then move to place all blame on Bush alone. It is a dishonest argument at its core.
    They did abdicate their responsibility, pure and simple. You know you're in trouble when Bird is the only one standing up for the constitution. They did not vote to go to war, war was not declared after their vote. They left it up to Bush to decide.

    Are you prepared to hold demo's accountable for that?
    Of course. I write the dems as much as I write the republicans. We should not be happy with either.

    How are you, and how will you hold demo's accountable?
    Where possible, I'll vote against them. You can't run a tea party nutter like King in iowa and expect my vote, true. But if there is a valid alternative, I will vote agianst them. I don't expect you to vote for a 9/11 nutter either, but I would think you would act as I do. Party should not be the issue, but what each elected leader does.


    Are you really trying to say that you are not making excuses for demo's when you started this post with a huge excuse?

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    Truth is not making an excuse. And while I dispute your reading, their being cowardly is not excusing them. They should have done their damn job. They didn't. None of them who passed the buck should have kept their seat.

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