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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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    Why not? He waved the taxpayer checkbook at the problem,had a blank check, total control of the legislative process much more than any Republican ever had and still generated these results. Nothing is going to change the mind of the brainwashed
    All untrue. He did not have a blank check. He had to dicker with moderate Republicans. He didn't have total control of the legislature. Blue Dogs did not heel. He has also had to deal with the most obstructive minority party in modern memory.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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    Shows the power of the press although current approval numbers for Obama show that changing. After 2 1/2 years in office and generating the results Obama has generated 2 years after the end of recession says it all. LIberals and Obama supporters continue to buy the rhetoric, fortunately that is a declining number as the disapproval numbers over 50% show.

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
    Do you actually think the public view of who is to blame for the economy changes?? LOL! I give the people more credit than that. For instance, do you think the public view of who invaded Iraq has changed? Or do you think the people are thinking Obama started the war? I trying to show you the fallacy in your logic. Everything you point out is just further proof of how bad Bush screwed the American people - it all goes back to the Bush doorstep. If I shoot & kill someone, people don't think someone else killed the guy years later, or his family members change their minds and blame someone else instead.
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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great news? The labor force dropped, more discouraged people dropped out of the labor force and are no longer counted as unemployed. The total Labor Force is dropping. Prove that they dropped every year of the Bush Presidency. You can't so you just spout DNC talking points. The liberal elites love having people like you and continue to laugh at you.
    I didn't say the LFPR dropped every year -- I said every year except '07 -- height of the real estate bubble. I'll have to amend that -- it was every year except '06 and '07. You can see the clear trend in the graph linked below. The labor force grew consistently throughout Clinton's presidency, then fell consistency through Bush's presidency to the present, with a brief blip represented by the real estate bubble:

    Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    All untrue. He did not have a blank check. He had to dicker with moderate Republicans. He didn't have total control of the legislature. Blue Dogs did not heel. He has also had to deal with the most obstructive minority party in modern memory.
    He had more control of the Congres than Bush ever did, Pelosi and Reid, you for some reason you expected Bush to have better results with the Democrat control 2007-2008? Talk about being a partisan? Wow, what is it in that kool-aid you are drinking and what is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    Do you actually think the public view of who is to blame for the economy changes?? LOL! I give the people more credit than that. For instance, do you think the public view of who invaded Iraq has changed? Or do you think the people are thinking Obama started the war? I trying to show you the fallacy in your logic. Everything you point out is just further proof of how bad Bush screwed the American people - it all goes back to the Bush doorstep. If I shoot & kill someone, people don't think someone else killed the guy years later, or his family members change their minds and blame someone else instead.
    The Obama results speak volumes, keep ignoring them

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I didn't say the LFPR dropped every year -- I said every year except '07 -- height of the real estate bubble. I'll have to amend that -- it was every year except '06 and '07. You can see the clear trend in the graph linked below. The labor force grew consistently throughout Clinton's presidency, then fell consistency through Bush's presidency to the present, with a brief blip represented by the real estate bubble:

    Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
    Employment by year, January of each year

    2000 136559
    2001 137778
    2002 135701
    2003 137417
    2004 138472
    2005 140245
    2006 143142
    2007 146032
    2008 146421
    2009 142221
    2010 138333
    2011 139323

    Labor force by year which once again shows you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about

    2001 143800
    2002 143883
    2003 145937
    2004 146842
    2005 148029
    2006 150214
    2007 153133
    2008 154060
    2009 154185
    2010 153353
    2011 153186

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    He had more control of the Congres than Bush ever did, Pelosi and Reid, you for some reason you expected Bush to have better results with the Democrat control 2007-2008? Talk about being a partisan? Wow, what is it in that kool-aid you are drinking and what is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?
    Bush had far more support from Democrats in Congress than Obama has had from Republicans -- which has been close to zero.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Bush had far more support from Democrats in Congress than Obama has had from Republicans -- which has been close to zero.
    Obama didn't need Republican support and no true conservative is ever going to support the leftwing agenda promoting the nanny state that Obama wants? Obama is what you get when you elect a Community agitator to the Presidency.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hate to confuse you with facts, 2 1/2 years after taking office and over two years since the end of the recession these are the results Obama has generated. The best you can do is divert and ignore those facts as you continue to buy the rhetoric. Looks like you are actually worse than a squirrel
    LET ME MAKE THIS SIMPLE FOR YOU...............

    If Bush cut down the cherry tree on his watch, do you blame Obama for not having cherries? Can you blame Obama for new cherry trees that have not had time to develop? That is how asinine your remarks are. Bush borrow and spent trillions, Bush cut taxes letting trillions disappear he needed for two wars, bush bailed billionaires out, and the damage the asshole did will take years to recover from. That is why they call it a recovery. Just because you want instant gratification after ****ing over the "black" Obama Administration with "DO WHATEVER IT TAKES," doesn't mean you can now blame Obama for your own shortfalls. LOL!
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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Employment by year, January of each year

    2000 136559
    2001 137778
    2002 135701
    2003 137417
    2004 138472
    2005 140245
    2006 143142
    2007 146032
    2008 146421
    2009 142221
    2010 138333
    2011 139323

    Labor force by year which once again shows you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about

    2001 143800
    2002 143883
    2003 145937
    2004 146842
    2005 148029
    2006 150214
    2007 153133
    2008 154060
    2009 154185
    2010 153353
    2011 153186
    OMG, please tell me you know the difference between total labor force and the labor RATE.


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