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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The last Bush budget ex. TARP and the OBama stimulus was 3.0 trillion dollars and the 2010 Obama Budget was 3.7 trillion dollars so think about it. Then there is the increase in unemployment that Obama has done nothing to improve. There are fewer people employed and more unemployed than when Obama took office. Over 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans are paying very little in taxes and that doesn't help the deficit at all.
    You are changing the subject. Your initial post implied that the democrats in Congress caused $1T deficits. I countered asking you to tell me what the democrats in Congress had to do with the deficits. You did not answer me, but changed the subject, so I take it you have no answer. You agree the $1T annual deficits were created by the policies of the previous administration... which started with practically a balanced budget and ran annual deficits up to $1T per year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Before claiming I use Hannity trite I suggest you stop ignoring the Obama economic policy and budget that generated these results. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty that Obama gets a pass on these kind of results.
    Now you are making stuff up... where did I say I was loyal to Obama?

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    NOTE THE YEAR, 2011, 2 1/2 years AFTER taking office


    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 40% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.
    Albeit your posts are tiring.... I don't want to argue numbers with you anymore as you don't want to be corrected. But, to be clear I am of the opinion that the horrific policies of the Bush administration got us into this mess and the weak leadership of the Obama administration has failed to plot a course to fix it. Sorry, but the problems are so deep that they are not going to be instantly fixed.... but I do not believe Obama is doing a particularly good job even turning the ship in the right direction.

    As for the credit downgrade, S&P was pretty direct in who gets the blame.... it isn't the people that took the prospect of downgrade seriously.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    We're going to have one next year and the year after that with a Republican House. And of course all spending bills originiate in the House. Explain.
    You are showing your age, take a civics class, spending bills originate in the House but have to be passed by the Senate and signed by the President. You will learn that in a civics class

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are showing your age, take a civics class, spending bills originate in the House but have to be passed by the Senate and signed by the President. You will learn that in a civics class
    Yeah, no kidding. So your argument is that it doesn't matter if a Republican House passes spending that results in a deficit over a trillion dollars? That's the Democrats' fault?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    That is sooooooooooo stupid. You know I really DO want to like conservatives but everytime I read dumb-ass crap like this it just makes me want to vote for Obama just to piss off people that makes lame-ass comments like "the kenyan tyrant".

    Actually are you a sock puppet? Someone else use to say ignorant crap like that but was banned if I remember correctly.
    What are you objecting to? His core beliefs are Marxist. He is damaging the nation. He is behaving like a tyrant. His roots are Kenyan.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, no kidding. So your argument is that it doesn't matter if a Republican House passes spending that results in a deficit over a trillion dollars? That's the Democrats' fault?

    So what is Harry Reid's response in the past year anytime he gets a budget spending cut measure? Table it? Kill it?

    Look, I'd give it to you that in the Bush years, repubs bought into the liberal pap, and started acting like demo's when it came to spending our tax money. That is a major reason they were voted out in '06. However, at least in the freshmen house members case of '10 the tide toward fiscal responsible actions is trying to make a come back, no matter how liberals, RHINO's, and progressive/marxists/socialists in the congress, and WH cry, moan, and bitch.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So what is Harry Reid's response in the past year anytime he gets a budget spending cut measure? Table it? Kill it?

    Look, I'd give it to you that in the Bush years, repubs bought into the liberal pap, and started acting like demo's when it came to spending our tax money. That is a major reason they were voted out in '06. However, at least in the freshmen house members case of '10 the tide toward fiscal responsible actions is trying to make a come back, no matter how liberals, RHINO's, and progressive/marxists/socialists in the congress, and WH cry, moan, and bitch.

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    Correction: Republicans acted like Republicans during the Bush administration. Republicans cut taxes and increase spending, thus jacking up deficits.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Correction: Republicans acted like Republicans during the Bush administration. Republicans cut taxes and increase spending, thus jacking up deficits.
    Yes, Republicans spent too much and were voted out of office. Apparently that spending was so unpopular that Democrats put that spending on steroids. Republicans weren't in charge from 2007-2011 and during that time 5 trillion was added to the debt. Four trillion was added 2009-present. For someone who wants to blame Republicans for too much spending you sure ignore what has happened since Democrats took control of the purse strings.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, Republicans spent too much and were voted out of office. Apparently that spending was so unpopular that Democrats put that spending on steroids. Republicans weren't in charge from 2007-2011 and during that time 5 trillion was added to the debt. Four trillion was added 2009-present. For someone who wants to blame Republicans for too much spending you sure ignore what has happened since Democrats took control of the purse strings.
    Republicans didn't get voted out for spending too much. They got voted out because they are bad at governing.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Republicans didn't get voted out for spending too much. They got voted out because they are bad at governing.
    Just like Democrats will have happen in 2012, the results show the American people what a mistake they made

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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    Just like Democrats will have happen in 2012, the results show the American people what a mistake they made
    We shall see....

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