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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Look you have yet to prove me wrong on any issue, total debt went up thus there was no surplus under Clinton. You think it is ok to steal your contriubtion to SS to show a surplus in the public debt? how are these IOU's going to be repaid?

    Social Security IOUs stashed away - Washington Times
    Since when are U.S. securities called IOUs? Why do you buy that crap, con???


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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Since when are U.S. securities called IOUs? Why do you buy that crap, con???
    Since they were used on budget for other spending and replaced in Intergovt. holdings with IOU's

    Social Security IOUs stashed away - Washington Times

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    You cant convince these tea baggers of anything.
    And you can't point out facts that appologists will accept or even acknowledge.

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Any facts you present to these people are downplayed with their excuses that we are just a bunch of fools, listening to that liberal media. Republicans think in a way of their way or the highway. The poor excuses of countless attempts at leadership only shows their true colors, unwilling to accept proven successful democratic administratons
    As superior to their failed republican gop.
    I've provided you facts, reasoning. I see you accusing others of your own actions. While good policy for the Alinskyites, it doesn't hold water when light is shined on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    These people tend to think with their wallet and bibles. Helping the poor and assisting the needy does not exist on a conservative agenda because their main goals are profit and corporate dominance in an economy that gives complete power of business over people while eliminating the middle class in the long run.
    Conservatives not only assist the needy, the do it on a larger scale than those of the Progressive liberal persuasion. More facts for you to ignore:

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    Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    They don't believe in clean energy, global warming, or enviromental protection.
    This is why your opinions and posts are not taken seriously. You generalize like a mouthfoamer without facts. THIS conservative does believe in clean energy, alternative energy, oil drilling, all of it. THIS conservative does believe the in global warming but does not believe it's "all man's fault". THIS conservative does believe in environmental protection and the responsibility of companies and corporations to be responsibile with earths environment.

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    Scientific data does not matter to them if it messes with corporation profits.
    You mean like GREEN corporate profits?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    They would eat up the ozone and drink radioactive water if they could make an extra billion. If this is the america you desire, by all means go republican in 2012.
    Not only with i go Republican in 2012 I will try and convince as many people of the abject failure, broken promises, and rope a dope / snake oil salesman tactics of our current President. No amount of accusations or diversions to how evil and dispicable everyone BUT Obama, will change FACT. The facts you avoid, you side step, and you dismiss and do not acknowledge. Those who cannot take accountability / responsibility for actions or inactions have no credibility - and as I've shown BOTH political party's are at fault. You're opinion is, only the GOP and tea party are at fault. THAT is why you lack credibility.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Nope. You are a liar, and convince me otherwise.
    Gee... you're minds made up. That certainly makes you open to convincing...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Since when are U.S. securities called IOUs? Why do you buy that crap, con???
    The following are the line item expenses from the Budget of the United States. Explain to me why SS and Medicare are listed as line item expenses as well as revenue? Where is the lockbox?

    Expenses

    Defense
    International Affairs
    Gen. Science, Space
    Energy
    Natural resources/env
    Agriculture
    Commerce
    Transportation
    Community Dev
    Education/Train/Social
    Health
    Medicare
    Income Security
    Social Security
    Veterans Benefits
    Justice
    General Govt.
    Net Interest

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Gee... you're minds made up. That certainly makes you open to convincing...

    Another in the long line of lib posers Al thinks that by choosing his lean as "independent" that it somehow shields his words as typed...Go down his post and every liberal talking point is listed with robotic like adherence to the overall liberal plan as laid out by Union, and Socialist heros like Allensky, Mao, Stalin, and Lennon. They are so exposed right now that it is ultimately laughable that they even try to promote the lie of their supposed Independent tag suggests.

    And if you think about it, if they are going to be so dishonest as to try that crap then post a regurgitated spew of far leftist pablum then why even acknowledge them with intelligent conversation? They neither deserve it, nor warrant it.

    I have no problem with liberals that are honestly going about their debate with principle, and genuine passion, but that is not what a rash of these mouthfoaming, quasi anti capitalists bring. They are rabid, and only look to name call, and troll to no end.

    They are not worth our breath, time, or acknowledgement.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Its been...what...a few short weeks or so since congress 'saved' us with the debt ceiling extension. Since that time we have seen...what??? from...ANYONE...in congress or the white house. THAT is why the US was downgraded. Incompetent government. No leaders. Rhetoric. Nothing else. How can we be shocked when no one else wants to invest in the country?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its been...what...a few short weeks or so since congress 'saved' us with the debt ceiling extension. Since that time we have seen...what??? from...ANYONE...in congress or the white house. THAT is why the US was downgraded. Incompetent government. No leaders. Rhetoric. Nothing else. How can we be shocked when no one else wants to invest in the country?
    Ok, what's your solution?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, what's your solution?

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    Clear intent. Cutting spending across the board. Firm commitment to pay down the debt. Legislated mandates on spending cuts FOLLOWED (only followed...horse first, then cart) by sundowned tax increases. Summits with industry and labor to bring back industrial jobs. Action...not campaign rhetoric.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Clear intent. Cutting spending across the board. Firm commitment to pay down the debt. Legislated mandates on spending cuts FOLLOWED (only followed...horse first, then cart) by sundowned tax increases. Summits with industry and labor to bring back industrial jobs. Action...not campaign rhetoric.
    You make way to much common sense for these times sir.

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