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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you can't help that I can actually think. Thank God some can, regardless of party.
    You believe you are thinking?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No where did I even suggest that. While I wish that teachers and policemen and fire figthers were all Obama's supporters, the fact is they are not so ideologically bent. Teachers, police officers, firefighters all vote for both democrats and conservatives. Some just see their jobs as important to all of us. And tha some who do include both liberals and conservatives.
    To whom do the public sector union members pay their dues? And to whom do the public sector union thugs provide the political payoff in get out the vote efforts and donations? Can you think for just one moment (since you said you know how) how perverse it is to take taxpayer dollars from the productive to give it to public sector union members in order to shore up your base, all the while lying to the nation about "shovel ready jobs"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Did you close your eyes and plug your ears while awake? You seem to have missed a lot.
    I took advantage of my sleep time to consolidate my learning gains. Your mileage may vary.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Many spew the words
    i know, they should link more

    linking forces you to know what's going on

    too many are too lazy to read, revealing a lack of self respect

    White House's Daley reaches out to manufacturers - The Washington Post

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    All of which the government has a hand in. Consumers have also decided to start paying off debt (which is a good thing) because of the uncertainty of what taxes or cuts are coming. The government certainly played a role in the housing crash. By both, removing regulations and encouraging home ownership where it wasn't viable. Obama's job czar is sending jobs overseas.
    Very limited roles. The government did not create predatory lenders, many here argue for deregulating, and there are good reasons to encourage home ownership. But the real problems came from outside government. The greed of predatory lenders, for example, who played a larger role than government, contributed far more to this aspect. These lenders also were party to the problems internationally, as they used much the same methods loaning money abroad.

    I think our disagreement is one of degree.

    I don't disagree as none of them (or few of them) look beyond the next election.

    True, but that is the nature of our system. And the 24 hour news cycle makes every day part of the election cycle.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i know, they should link more
    No, think more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    says the 60 second clicker who asserts presidents---OUTSIDE ACTIVELY HIRING WORKERS---have no effect on the economy

    LOL!

    Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    says the 60 second clicker who asserts presidents---OUTSIDE ACTIVELY HIRING WORKERS---have no effect on the economy

    LOL!

    Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME
    No, control. Don't control. I know it is too much to ask that you get it right.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    To whom do the public sector union members pay their dues? And to whom do the public sector union thugs provide the political payoff in get out the vote efforts and donations? Can you think for just one moment (since you said you know how) how perverse it is to take taxpayer dollars from the productive to give it to public sector union members in order to shore up your base, all the while lying to the nation about "shovel ready jobs"?
    Dues are paid to the union. Payoff has a specific meaning, so you must prove something that meets that meaning. Donating to a party is not equal to a pay off.

    BTW, you're not answering my point here. Let me repeat it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley
    While I wish that teachers and policemen and fire figthers were all Obama's supporters, the fact is they are not so ideologically bent. Teachers, police officers, firefighters all vote for both democrats and conservatives. Some just see their jobs as important to all of us. And tha some who do include both liberals and conservatives.

    I took advantage of my sleep time to consolidate my learning gains. Your mileage may vary.
    I'm more concerned why you missed so much.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Again you buy the rhetoric without getting the facts, tell me who we were OBLIGATED to pay that we would have defaulted on? You want badly to buy what you are being told but the truth is we cannot afford a 3.7 trillion dollar govt. and it should have been cut drastically.
    Boy, that sure inspires confidence in our credit worthiness. F**k you buddy, I ain't gonna pay! Nice...

    Someone wanna decode this post for me?

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    While I wish that teachers and policemen and fire figthers were all Obama's supporters, the fact is they are not so ideologically bent. Teachers, police officers, firefighters all vote for both democrats and conservatives. Some just see their jobs as...
    that's nice

    CNBC: State Pensions Face $2.5 Trillion Shortfall

    I'm more concerned why you missed so much
    2.5T is an awful lot to miss

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