You did it! You dodged AGAIN. And your stupid question is equivalent to my asking you, When will you stop beating your wife?I have already answered your question with my own. I shall ask it in a new form especially for you. Do you believe there is any relationship between giving an extra-constitutional agency dictatorial powers and clean air and water? I do not believe any identifiable harm would come from closing down the EPA and repealing its regulations.
You utterly refuse to accept the fact that you blindly support one position--shutting down government agencies--without the slightest regard to the dire consequences of such situation. You are either unwilling or unable--my vote is for the former--to weigh the pros and cons of such a move. But most of all, you think this is one big joke. You have a clear disdain for the United States of America, and you'd just assume to trash it if it means advancing your political agenda. I have no patience for such extremist positions as yours. <AOL voice>Goodbye.Who cares? It is not relevant to closing down the extra-constitutional departments and agencies.
Ignore me if you wish.
No where did I even suggest that. While I wish that teachers and policemen and fire figthers were all Obama's supporters, the fact is they are not so ideologically bent. Teachers, police officers, firefighters all vote for both democrats and conservatives. Some just see their jobs as important to all of us. And tha some who do include both liberals and conservatives.So you agree with my central point after all. Money was transferred from the productive people in the private sector to Obama supporters in public sector unions. That was pretty hard for you, wasn't it?
Did you close your eyes and plug your ears while awake? You seem to have missed a lot.About half of the time. How about you?
AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.
Did that help?
Except I gave you the link to the actual data and facts. There was no surplus under Clinton as proven but liberals love to use public debt instead of total debt even though total debt is what we pay debt service on. Does it really matter if public debt has a surplus if the total debt thus debt service increases?Phys251;1059726909]Receiving a scolding from a conservative on alleged lying is like receiving a scolding from Michael Jackson on alleged child abuse. I'm very sorry, but the mere fact that you are a conservative severely impairs your credibility in this regard. Hey, you may be one of the very few conservatives that can honestly handle these kinds of conversations well. Strictly from a statistical point-of-view, however, it isn't likely.
PAgain, why would you buy politifact instead of actual Treasury data? Could it be because that is what you want to believe? Do you realize that CBOis posting public debt not total debt? Again you don't seem to know the difference just like you don't understand the difference between deficit and debtot, meet kettle. Besides, I already answered this question.
Care to explain to me what that $236.2-BILLION dollar mark means? Or at least what the colors on the chart stand for?
Sorry, but didn't know that posting actual data was twisting and distorting numbers.You are twisting and distorting the numbers to suit your agenda. And again, it's crap like that why liberals and conservatives have very little chance of having a civil debate.
The US government is mostly bound by its deficit that it passed the prior year. (Note: I am a bit shaky in terms of the exact lag time, but I know it is on the order of a year or so.) In other words, strictly from a budgetary point-of-view, how much we spend this year was mostly determined by what we budgeted back in 2010 (I think). Which, getting back to the OP, underscores one of the many follies of the debt ceiling crisis: Raising it merely gave the Treasury permission to fund that which Congress had already agreed to. It would be like an adult having to receive permission from her husband just to pay the bills that she was contractually obligated to pay.
Your understanding of the budget process is better than your understanding of the debt and deficit. The govt. uses baseline budgeting meaning that the next year's budget process starts with the baseline budget which is this years thus a 100 billion budget item this year is then the starting point for next year and a proposal of 150 billion that is reduced to 125 billion is called a cut by Congress when the reality is it is a cut in growth but no cut at all.