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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    Damn this sh*t is old... and rank. My fellow Americans leave me scratching my head yet again. All of you are well meaning, but you're not looking past the party pageantry and scenery to see that this is all just theater.

    Carter this, Reagan that, Clinton... Bush... Obama...

    The reality is folks, that not one administration, not one congress in many generations has lived within our budget. That means they've ALL failed us. All you lot are doing is jockeying for who failed us less...

    ... and that is NOT the conversation we should be having... if you can call endless, pointless finger pointing a conversation.

    Here is another historical constant... If the government, particularly a segment of government (party, party faction or politician) is trying to sell you one thing, you can bet what's in the box ain't as advertised and is most often something else entirely.

    Bet on it. Now there are some derivatives I could get behind! Short selling our politicians.

    By all means, if that's the conversation you really want to have, who failed most, in EVERY FREAKIN ISSUE AND TOPIC, by all means, piss your lives away.

    If you want things fixed this is the last conversation we should be having...

    carry on...
    I have tried pointing this out and it was like screaming into a void. No one genuinely seems to want a fix if it involves real genuine compromise.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i don't think you're using that word quite the way you want to

    Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    fyi
    She should be referring to neo-liberalism
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    Failure... everywhere, by all elected, for generations.
    U.S. funding for future promises lags by trillions - USATODAY.com

    1935, 1965 and generations of kicking the can to HERE

    if something isn't done NOW to fundamentally reform our budgets, our big federal programs will die (and take the rest of the world down with em)

    leadership, anyone?
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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    She should be referring to neo-liberalism
    tell it to the THREE CHICKS

    LOL!

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Obama did not win the election
    I like this perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ....Palin lost it for John.
    I believe this is inaccurate. I looked at J. McCain and I saw statism. He is democrat-lite. Why vote for a slow crawl to socialism when you can vote for the real thing? And vote people did. The one term Marxist president Obama was going to redistribute wealth from the productive to the unproductive.







    And the Obama supporters are drawn from the most knowledgeable, the wisest among us.



    There were so many to choose from...

    I did not vote. I preferred that the nation be brought to near destruction by a Democrat instead of a republican in name only.
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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    [QUOTE=donc;1059725651]Yep, a sour lib that donít like abortion and packs heat when he goís to work.
    Okay. So you are a complicated...uh, liberal.

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    I have to be nice to you. The moderator is about to give us a warning. It is your lucky day. :-)

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    I have tried pointing this out and it was like screaming into a void. No one genuinely seems to want a fix if it involves real genuine compromise.
    It doesn't require compromise. That is a Left v Right paradigm... and that is not the core issue. It's the People v Gov't, and in that, there can be no compromise. Any left v right compromises occur AFTER a unified correction to a gov't run amok.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    It doesn't require compromise. That is a Left v Right paradigm... and that is not the core issue. It's the People v Gov't, and in that, there can be no compromise. Any left v right compromises occur AFTER a unified correction to a gov't run amok.
    I can accept this. You do know that at the end of the day though, it will all be business as usual. I will listen to debates and know full what a candidate doesn't like about their opponent, but will still be wondering what their position is.

    The process need an overhaul, getting rid of professional lifetime politicians, using a standard of common sense to mark a potential candidate instead of the groomed slick face we are presented with.

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thanks to Prof for refuting your claims of NY. You don't lose Congressional seats by gaining population
    I am aware of how the math of the seat allocation system, kthx.

    Further debt to GDP is why we have a down grade, it is almost 100% of GDP

    I suggest you stop reading left wing sites, FIT revenue went UP after the Reagan and Bush tax cuts were fully implemented as has been posted many times. You can get this information at BEA.gov
    Oh so any source needs to have a right-wing tilt in order to be Fair & Balanced? Come on, dude, get real.

    S&P: Debt default skeptics fueled ratings downgrade - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com

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    Re: United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Regulations exist for the purposes of consumer protection and minimizing market failure. Of course, there are some that are complete nonsense (OSHA can be oppressive), but to invoke an all or nothing argument in favor of deregulation is just silly.
    Shall we begin to repeal all of the regulations promulgated by the extra-constitutional departments like Education and the extra-constitutional agencies like the EPA? The economy would boom, children would quite possibly begin learning again and the power of the central government would be diminished.

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