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    Agents raid raw food club, farm(edited)

    Two people who have been to target of a one year undercover investigation for selling, quite openly, raw milk have been arrsted.

    Agents raid raw food club, farm

    There has been a shift since the first raid in that now the attack and milk dumping is because the store didn't have appropriate business permits. Right. Of course. "You don't have a business license so I'm dumping your milk down the drain."

    The two miscreants arrested are being held on bond.
    "Palmer was being held at a Ventura County facility on $121,500 bail. Stewart and Bloch were being held at facilities in Los Angeles County on $123,000 and $60,000 bail, respectively."

    Well, I guess I just can't think of anything more pressing than arresting people for selling raw milk. And, I'd sure want to set their bond as high as I could. They're a serious public risk for failing to bow down.

    For the record, I don't drink milk, raw or otherwise. I will confess, since I think the statute of limitations has expired, that in 1970 I bought raw milk and showed my kids how to make butter and cheese. I know. It terrible.
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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    It really is ridicules. Until recently I was ignorant about the lengths the government goes to to shut down raw milk distributors and sellers, raw milk is second only to drugs in the war against illegal substances.

    Some states have made the sale of raw milk legal or largely ignore it's sale while other states aggressively prosecute violators.

    I feel it should be perfectly legal to sell and I would only require distinct labeling and different colored containers. Let the consumer decide for themselves.

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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    There is a way to get the government to back off. Tax it.

    The health police are getting out of hand. They arrested someone here because they found an ashtray with ashes in their place of work. They threatened to shut down the VFD ice cream social (how they raise most of their money) because they said they didn't have the proper permit.

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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    Raw milk can pose a serious threat to the health of people, and by serious I mean it could killl them.

    I am amazed that people don't get the facy that a few rules and regulations are there for the right reasons and do some good.

    We I was a kid raw milk was not the threat it has become and everyone had a cow.

    The world is a smaller place today and the spread of illness from being spread in a matter of hours is very real, 49 or 50 years back it could take weeks to catch something in California the came fom Africa. Now it's just s plane ride away.

    I agree the Government cans be a pain in the ass but this is not one of those times.

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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Raw milk can pose a serious threat to the health of people, and by serious I mean it could killl them.

    I am amazed that people don't get the facy that a few rules and regulations are there for the right reasons and do some good.

    We I was a kid raw milk was not the threat it has become and everyone had a cow.

    The world is a smaller place today and the spread of illness from being spread in a matter of hours is very real, 49 or 50 years back it could take weeks to catch something in California the came fom Africa. Now it's just s plane ride away.

    I agree the Government cans be a pain in the ass but this is not one of those times.
    Organic foods can kill you too. Should they be banned?

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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Raw milk can pose a serious threat to the health of people, and by serious I mean it could killl them.

    I am amazed that people don't get the facy that a few rules and regulations are there for the right reasons and do some good.

    We I was a kid raw milk was not the threat it has become and everyone had a cow.

    The world is a smaller place today and the spread of illness from being spread in a matter of hours is very real, 49 or 50 years back it could take weeks to catch something in California the came fom Africa. Now it's just s plane ride away.

    I agree the Government cans be a pain in the ass but this is not one of those times.
    Most everything on the McDonalds menu will kill you. Raw milk can also be very good for you. I say this as person who doesn't like milk in any form, in any way, at any time. But I'd very much like for corpgov to leave us the hell alone.

    Cops raid a farm because they distribute raw milk. On the way back from the arrest, cops stop at 7/11 to buy cigarettes. Phillip Morris and other tobacco companies are able to afford one hell of a lobby team to funnel money, legal and otherwise, to members of the House and Senate. That's why cigarettes remain legal. Raw milk farmers can't compete with the Borden's, etc. lobbyist putting money in the pockets of Congress.










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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    Pasteurizing makes milk worthless. Raw milk is the only milk I will drink. I obtain it illegally and will continue to do so. I don't follow laws that are immoral.

    Raw milk was made illegal to sell because of a single TB outbreak 60 years ago. Nowadays people will drink milk that is nutritionally dead but filled with hormones like prolactin but will feel scared about drinking raw, organic, untainted milk. Our society is truly backwards.

    The only thing the milk pasteurization laws serve now is the big corporations. They don't want independent farmers getting the upper hand.

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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Pasteurizing makes milk worthless. Raw milk is the only milk I will drink. I obtain it illegally and will continue to do so. I don't follow laws that are immoral.

    Raw milk was made illegal to sell because of a single TB outbreak 60 years ago. Nowadays people will drink milk that is nutritionally dead but filled with hormones like prolactin but will feel scared about drinking raw, organic, untainted milk. Our society is truly backwards.

    The only thing the milk pasteurization laws serve now is the big corporations. They don't want independent farmers getting the upper hand.
    Not true at all. Pasteurizing is only heating the milk to kill bacteria, that's all.
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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Pasteurizing makes milk worthless. Raw milk is the only milk I will drink. I obtain it illegally and will continue to do so. I don't follow laws that are immoral.

    Raw milk was made illegal to sell because of a single TB outbreak 60 years ago. Nowadays people will drink milk that is nutritionally dead but filled with hormones like prolactin but will feel scared about drinking raw, organic, untainted milk. Our society is truly backwards.

    The only thing the milk pasteurization laws serve now is the big corporations. They don't want independent farmers getting the upper hand.
    I'm sorry, but that's just an ignorant post. What exactly do people drink milk for? Calcium? If so, pasteurised milk is not "worthless". Some people just want a white liquid to go with their cereal without added harmful bacteria. If so, pasteurised milk is not "worthless".

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    Re: Raw Milk Arrests

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Raw milk can pose a serious threat to the health of people, and by serious I mean it could killl them.
    I have no idea how much raw milk I've drank. Truthfully I disliked it. You'd have to drink it down real fast to keep the cream from gathering at the top. It never killed me.

    I am amazed that people don't get the facy that a few rules and regulations are there for the right reasons and do some good.
    And if that's what you want, it's available. I'd never argue they should be removed for those who want them.
    I was a kid raw milk was not the threat it has become and everyone had a cow.

    The world is a smaller place today and the spread of illness from being spread in a matter of hours is very real, 49 or 50 years back it could take weeks to catch something in California the came fom Africa. Now it's just s plane ride away.

    I agree the Government cans be a pain in the ass but this is not one of those times.
    People should be able to decide for themselves. Heck we still allow people to spread AIDS but not drink raw milk?

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