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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    that's the only one I know of
    there's another

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Oh sure, Dems used the filibuster too -- at about HALF the rate that Republicans are using it. Republican filibustered more bills last year than were filibustered by both parties in the 1950s and 1960s COMBINED.
    Maybe Democrats should win more elections.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    we should be having an honest discussion about what can be done, what the options are, and what has worked in the past
    the honest discussion in new york:

    "we have the worst business tax climate in the nation, period, our taxes are 66% higher than the national average"

    "the costs of pensions are exploding... a 476% increase and its only getting worse"

    "the state of new york spends too much money, it is that blunt and it is that simple"

    "an unsustainable rate of growth and it has been for a long time"

    "not only do we spend too much, but we get too little in return"

    "the large government we have is all too often responsive to the special interests over the people"

    "new yorkers are voting with their feet, two million new yorkers have left the state over the past decade"

    "what does this say, it says we need radical reform, it says we need a new approach, we need a new perspective and we need it now"

    "this is a fundamental realignment for the state"

    "the old way wasn't working anyway, let's be honest"

    "we want a government that puts the people first and not the special interests first"

    "what made new york the empire state was a not a large government complex, it was a vibrant private sector that was creating great jobs"

    "and that's what's going to make us the empire state again"

    "at the heart of this state is business"

    "we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says new york is open for business, we get it, and this is going to be a business friendly state"

    "we are going to have to confront the tax situation in our state, property taxes in this state are killing new yorkers, thirteen of the sixteen highest tax counties are in new york when assessed by home value"

    "westchester county has the highest property taxes in the united states, nassau county has the second highest"

    "it has to end, it has to end this year"

    "we have to hold the line on taxes for now and reduce taxes in the future, new york has no future as the tax capital of the nation, our young people will not stay, our business will not come"

    "put it simply, the people of this state simply cannot afford to pay any more taxes, period"

    "we have to start with an emergency financial plan to stabilize our finances, we need to hold the line and we need to institute a wage freeze in the state of new york, we need to hold the line on taxes, we need a state spending cap and we need to close this $10 billion gap without any borrowing"

    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

    any honest person would expect their government to do the same instead engage in partisan politics and drag us all down
    is the gub engaging in partisanship and dragging folks down?

    Cuomo budget: $10 billion deficit cut, no new taxes, layoffs likely

    Andrew Cuomo approval sky-high, new poll suggests - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the honest discussion in new york:

    "we have the worst business tax climate in the nation, period, our taxes are 66% higher than the national average"

    "the costs of pensions are exploding... a 476% increase and its only getting worse"

    "the state of new york spends too much money, it is that blunt and it is that simple"

    "an unsustainable rate of growth and it has been for a long time"

    "not only do we spend too much, but we get too little in return"

    "the large government we have is all too often responsive to the special interests over the people"

    "new yorkers are voting with their feet, two million new yorkers have left the state over the past decade"

    "what does this say, it says we need radical reform, it says we need a new approach, we need a new perspective and we need it now"

    "this is a fundamental realignment for the state"

    "the old way wasn't working anyway, let's be honest"

    "we want a government that puts the people first and not the special interests first"

    "what made new york the empire state was a not a large government complex, it was a vibrant private sector that was creating great jobs"

    "and that's what's going to make us the empire state again"

    "at the heart of this state is business"

    "we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says new york is open for business, we get it, and this is going to be a business friendly state"

    "we are going to have to confront the tax situation in our state, property taxes in this state are killing new yorkers, thirteen of the sixteen highest tax counties are in new york when assessed by home value"

    "westchester county has the highest property taxes in the united states, nassau county has the second highest"

    "it has to end, it has to end this year"

    "we have to hold the line on taxes for now and reduce taxes in the future, new york has no future as the tax capital of the nation, our young people will not stay, our business will not come"

    "put it simply, the people of this state simply cannot afford to pay any more taxes, period"

    "we have to start with an emergency financial plan to stabilize our finances, we need to hold the line and we need to institute a wage freeze in the state of new york, we need to hold the line on taxes, we need a state spending cap and we need to close this $10 billion gap without any borrowing"

    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo



    is the gub engaging in partisanship and dragging folks down?

    Cuomo budget: $10 billion deficit cut, no new taxes, layoffs likely

    Andrew Cuomo approval sky-high, new poll suggests - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com
    Great post, bet Adam ignores it along with the rest of the Obama followers

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Personally I think the more filibusters the better. The less Congress does the better off we are.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There shouldn't be any distinction between Democrat/Republican. The limit should apply to whichever party is in the minority. I think the 50s and 60s is a good baseline because that was a time before the filibuster started to be abused. You could instead use the 70-90s and pick a limit in the 20-40 range, which was about average before the republicans started filibustering well over 100 bills every year.
    I wonder if you understand what this means and why the Tea Party elected so many in the 2010 elections.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's hardly irrelevant, particularly when the minority party in the Senate is filibustering everything
    and reaping massive rewards for so doing---most house seats since 1938, most state reps and chambers in history, 11 gubs, 6 senators...

    instead of whining ineffectually about how he's being filibustered, a REAL president MAKES THE OTHER SIDE PAY

    hello

    The GOP has been successful in killing the public option
    you don't know what you're talking about

    Update: List of Dem Senators Who Don't Support the Public Option | CarlBentham's Blog

    the budget chair killed it

    preventing the repeal of Bush's top tax cuts
    44 dem senators voted for the bush/obama/clinton/boehner/mcconnell tax cuts for the rich and everyone else

    Senate passes package extending Bush tax cuts - politics - Capitol Hill - msnbc.com

    downstairs, it was 143 to 112, house leadership split

    preventing the extension of unemployment benefits
    no, 36 of 41 republicans in the senate and 143 of 179 in pelosi's place are the majority of the reason the benefits were in fact extended

    and preventing a real debate about what we should do about the deficit and tax reform
    LOL!

    where ya been?
    Last edited by The Prof; 08-05-11 at 09:43 PM.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    and reaping massive rewards for so doing---most house seats since 1938, most state reps and chambers in history, 11 gubs, 6 senators...

    instead of whining ineffectually about how he's being filibustered, a REAL president MAKES THE OTHER SIDE PAY

    hello



    you don't know what you're talking about

    Update: List of Dem Senators Who Don't Support the Public Option | CarlBentham's Blog

    the budget chair killed it



    44 dem senators voted for the bush/obama/clinton/boehner/mcconnell tax cuts for the rich and everyone else

    Senate passes package extending Bush tax cuts - politics - Capitol Hill - msnbc.com

    downstairs, it was 143 to 112, house leadership split



    no, 36 of 41 republicans in the senate and 143 of 179 in pelosi's place are the majority of the reason the benefits were in fact extended



    LOL!

    where ya been?
    Now there you go confusing Adam with actual links and facts. Wonder if he will ever realize that the liberal elite are making a fool out of him and are laughing their asses off at him

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    A majority of Democrats supported the public option. They ditched it because it was going to prevent them from getting the few Republicans they needed to pass the overall bill.
    the overall bill passed with zero republican votes

    Democrats could not pass the stimulus bill without Republican support in the Senate
    if you count benedict arlen, yes

    those measly three votes they needed wielded a tremendous amount of power to shape the bill
    benedict arlen specter wielded a tremendous amount of power?

    LOL!

    in february of 09?

    do go on
    Last edited by The Prof; 08-05-11 at 10:06 PM.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I wonder if you understand what this means and why the Tea Party elected so many in the 2010 elections.

    U.S. loses AAA credit rating from S&P - Yahoo! News
    It means that the country is suicidal?

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