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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    If Romeny gets elected and a second recession is in full swing, he will probably do another stimulus and invest in infrastructure... ya know, all that **** Obama proposed doing before. If it has to be done, he will do it. He knows more about economics than most people in the TP do right now, and I doubt he would waste time. The only difference will be when Romney does, the GOP won't throw as big of a fit cause that's how DC works. Obama isn't an effective leader in many ways. IDK if Romney is, but the GOP has shown in the past that they'll throw away their hardline stances, even give somebody a pass on saying the constitution is just a piece of paper, if it's fellow GOPer in the White House.
    Look, there was no problem with implementing a stimulus program to get us out of recession but the Obama stimulus didn't stimulate anything except higher debt and greater unemployment. Please provide me with any successes generated by liberal economics? Romney will eliminate needless red tape regulations from the NLRB, OSHA, and the EPA, grant waivers to every state for Obama care, and initiate greater incentives for the private sector. That is what is needed for a private sector economy, not Obamanomics

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

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    Not nearly enough...One half of one third of government is really irrelevant. The current crop of demo's see to that everyday with their allies in the MSM.

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    It's hardly irrelevant, particularly when the minority party in the Senate is filibustering everything. The GOP has been successful in killing the public option, scaling back stimulus, preventing the repeal of Bush's top tax cuts, preventing the elimination of tax loopholes, preventing the extension of unemployment benefits, and preventing a real debate about what we should do about the deficit and tax reform.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

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    Look, there was no problem with implementing a stimulus program to get us out of recession but the Obama stimulus didn't stimulate anything except higher debt and greater unemployment. Please provide me with any successes generated by liberal economics? Romney will eliminate needless red tape regulations from the NLRB, OSHA, and the EPA, grant waivers to every state for Obama care, and initiate greater incentives for the private sector. That is what is needed for a private sector economy, not Obamanomics
    Let's see, I can think of a few liberal successes. Ending slavery, repeal of Jim Crow, desegration, 40 hour work week, weekends, end of child labor, the minimum wage, equal rights for women, suffrage for women, near universal health care, cutting the poverty rate in half due to Great Society programs, WPA programs like the Hoover Dam, the clean air and water acts ... and that's off the top of my head.

    What I really can't come up with are any conservative accomplishments.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    We should have instituted a massive government jobs program that got people working improving our infrastructure 2 years ago, and the stimulus should have been more spending and less tax cuts. The deficit is a problem, but solving this recession quickly is going to cost us money. People need to realize that.
    They already collect enough in user taxes to pay for infrastructure, the problem is that the spend it on "pie in the sky" high speed rail and other green energy road projects, instead of maintaining current infrastructure.

    The worst offenders of this are large cities, which tend to spend a large percentage (sometimes as much as 50%) of highway/road funds on mass transit systems, which serve less than 10% of the city's population.

    Having them spend more money won't solve a thing, if they can't spend their highway/road money correctly now.
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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's hardly irrelevant, particularly when the minority party in the Senate is filibustering everything. The GOP has been successful in killing the public option, scaling back stimulus, preventing the repeal of Bush's top tax cuts, preventing the elimination of tax loopholes, preventing the extension of unemployment benefits, and preventing a real debate about what we should do about the deficit and tax reform.
    There you go again, misinformation if not a downright lie. The public option couldn't be passed by Democrats, not a Republican filibuster. The stimulus received very little Republican support so Obama got what he wanted and the Bush tax cuts were extended by a lame duck Congress controlled by Democrats. Stop embarrrassing yourself.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    I don't get why people are selling this time - I got it (but thought it was ill advised) in 2008. But now?

    You know - in 2008, if people who sold just kep their stocks and bits - they'd be fine right now.
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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Let's see, I can think of a few liberal successes. Ending slavery, repeal of Jim Crow, desegration, 40 hour work week, weekends, end of child labor, the minimum wage, equal rights for women, suffrage for women, near universal health care, cutting the poverty rate in half due to Great Society programs, WPA programs like the Hoover Dam, the clean air and water acts ... and that's off the top of my head.

    What I really can't come up with are any conservative accomplishments.
    There you go again, a lot of misinformation in your posts. Do some research for a change. Civil rights was passed by Republicans, not Democrats. Those so called liberal success stories contributed greatly to the 14.5 trillion dollar debt today that your parents are paying for.

    By the way, thought Lincoln ended slavery with the civil war and Lincoln was a Republican. Aw, that liberal education system today
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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    The public option couldn't be passed by Democrats, not a Republican filibuster.
    Nonsense. A majority of Democrats supported the public option. They ditched it because it was going to prevent them from getting the few Republicans they needed to pass the overall bill.

    The stimulus received very little Republican support so Obama got what he wanted and the Bush tax cuts were extended by a lame duck Congress controlled by Democrats. Stop embarrrassing yourself.
    Again, you are fundamentally dishonest. Democrats could not pass the stimulus bill without Republican support in the Senate, because of course Republicans filibuster everything. Accordingly, those measly three votes they needed wielded a tremendous amount of power to shape the bill.

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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Nonsense. A majority of Democrats supported the public option. They ditched it because it was going to prevent them from getting the few Republicans they needed to pass the overall bill.



    Again, you are fundamentally dishonest. Democrats could not pass the stimulus bill without Republican support in the Senate, because of course Republicans filibuster everything. Accordingly, those measly three votes they needed wielded a tremendous amount of power to shape the bill.
    Nice revisionist history which you do often. Your opinions are hardly fact. GW Bush never had even close to the numbers of Republicans that Obama had Democrats and he has been blamed for everything. Obama had a filibuster proof Congress for almost a year and overwhelming control from Jan 2009 to Jan 2011. He implemented terrible legislation that wasn't leftwing enough for you, not because of Republicans but because of Democrats. Get over the partisan bs and get the facts.
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    Re: Worst day since 2008 financial crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Nonsense. A majority of Democrats supported the public option. They ditched it because it was going to prevent them from getting the few Republicans they needed to pass the overall bill.



    Again, you are fundamentally dishonest. Democrats could not pass the stimulus bill without Republican support in the Senate, because of course Republicans filibuster everything. Accordingly, those measly three votes they needed wielded a tremendous amount of power to shape the bill.
    Well don't say it as if Democrats never filibuster ****
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