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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    I initially wrote Mormon leader Warren Jeffs, but I thought that I should make the distinction between Mormon and Fundamental Mormons so I deleted Mormon. I did the same thing with a title about Chris Christi, and I made the title read Christ Released from Hospital.

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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Is he really polytheisitic?
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Mormons, at least some of them believe that once you die and go to Heaven, you basically get to do your own version of the universe playing God yourself. In that aspect, they are polytheistic as every Mormon who went to Heaven basically turns into a God.

    That said, Mr. Jeff is a sick ****.
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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Actually even mainstream Mormons are polytheists. The believe the Father,Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct beings. So they really are polytheists.

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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Wont change much.. the cult is still legal and child rape is still going on an industrial scale in its compounds... and the US government does nothing to stop it... so why should his conviction change a damn thing...
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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    I am waiting to hear Roman Polanski's supporters--Whoopie Goldberg, Woody Allen, others--coming to the defense of Mr. Jeff. Of course they will. Sure, the girls in the Jeff case are a bit older but that doesn't matter. Their mothers were willing to be accomplices, too. I'm waiting, Whoopie and Woody.

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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    I am waiting to hear Roman Polanski's supporters--Whoopie Goldberg, Woody Allen, others--coming to the defense of Mr. Jeff. Of course they will. Sure, the girls in the Jeff case are a bit older but that doesn't matter. Their mothers were willing to be accomplices, too. I'm waiting, Whoopie and Woody.
    Are you seriously comparing Roman Polanski to the Christian paedophile religious cult? You do realize there is plenty of reports about children being forced to have sex with each other as soon as possible.. girls being married off at a very young age and so on and so on.. Yes Roman Polanski may or may not have had sex with an under-age girl 30 years ago.. but to compare that to a man and his "family" who for decades have abused children, especially girls.... is at best idiotic and at worst a case of total denial and stupidity.

    And what of Woody Allen.. that he fell in love with his partners adopted daughter? You do realize that he was never legally her step father, nor was he her legal guardian.. that was Mia. Were they consenting adults? Yes. case closed.

    As for Whoopie.. what you talking about there? You claiming she has raped children?
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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Are you seriously comparing Roman Polanski to the Christian paedophile religious cult? You do realize there is plenty of reports about children being forced to have sex with each other as soon as possible.. girls being married off at a very young age and so on and so on.. Yes Roman Polanski may or may not have had sex with an under-age girl 30 years ago.. but to compare that to a man and his "family" who for decades have abused children, especially girls.... is at best idiotic and at worst a case of total denial and stupidity.

    And what of Woody Allen.. that he fell in love with his partners adopted daughter? You do realize that he was never legally her step father, nor was he her legal guardian.. that was Mia. Were they consenting adults? Yes. case closed.

    As for Whoopie.. what you talking about there? You claiming she has raped children?
    Are you serious? I don't support Mr. Jeff in any way shape or form. I also don't support, as you do, Roman Polanski. You are an amazing hypocrite. "Yes Roman Polanski may or may not have had sex with an under-age girl...." What an amazing admission. The girl gave statements, her mother gave statements, and Roman Polanski admitted having sex and giving drugs to facilitate having sex with a 13-year old girl. But you stick with the party line of "may or may not have had sex". That is pitiful.


    And, I really sorry you can't read the news. Whoopie Goldberg said on national television, her own show, that Roman Polanski was being persecuted and what it did wasn't rape-rape which is different from rape.

    I think Mr. Jeff belongs in prison. The only places you and I disagree is that unlike you, I think Roman Polanski should have gone to prison too, and I don't deny or support his rape of a 13-year old girl. Oh, and I prefer legal evidence over "reports". I'm quite familiar with "reports".

    If you wish to defend perverts you should try to be a little informed and a little consistent.

    To repeat, I thinik Mr. Jeff belongs in prison. I just wondered if the supporters for the other, admitted, rapist of underage girls would rally to the defense of Mr. Jeff. Apparently, they won't. They'll continue to defend Roman Polanski though.
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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Mormons, at least some of them believe that once you die and go to Heaven, you basically get to do your own version of the universe playing God yourself. In that aspect, they are polytheistic as every Mormon who went to Heaven basically turns into a God.

    That said, Mr. Jeff is a sick ****.
    I was a Mormon for 13 years. There is far more to this than your simple statement.

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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Actually even mainstream Mormons are polytheists. The believe the Father,Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct beings. So they really are polytheists.


    They also believe that only the Father is God. They do think they are 3 distinct beings, one in purpose.

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    Re: Polytheistic Warren Jeffs found guilt of sexual assult

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Are you serious? I don't support Mr. Jeff in any way shape or form. I also don't support, as you do, Roman Polanski. You are an amazing hypocrite. "Yes Roman Polanski may or may not have had sex with an under-age girl...." What an amazing admission. The girl gave statements, her mother gave statements, and Roman Polanski admitted having sex and giving drugs to facilitate having sex with a 13-year old girl. But you stick with the party line of "may or may not have had sex". That is pitiful.
    What is pitiful is you. First of all show me where I say I supported Roman Polanski? And as for ""may or may not have".. have you ever heard of the law? The man has not been convicted of anything (yes because he fled) so until he has, then he is presumed innocent. Also you know as well as I do, that the case is not as black and white as you state it.

    And, I really sorry you can't read the news. Whoopie Goldberg said on national television, her own show, that Roman Polanski was being persecuted and what it did wasn't rape-rape which is different from rape.
    Listen Whoopie Goldberg rarely gets coverage over here in Europe, so why should anything she says about Roman Polanski get coverage here?

    I think Mr. Jeff belongs in prison.
    OH nice of you to admit that.

    The only places you and I disagree is that unlike you, I think Roman Polanski should have gone to prison too, and I don't deny or support his rape of a 13-year old girl.
    And again you are putting words in my mouth. I have never stated either way what I think of the Roman Polanski case... hence the may or may not comment. But since you ask.. yes in principle he should have gone to jail if the case against him was proven back in the day.. but now.. come on... it is more 30 years now. On top of that the judge in the original case was a crazy person. Have you ever looked at the case.. how the judge suddenly changed his mind after originally accepting probation? Not to mention that the statue of limitations is long gone as far as I understand it.

    Oh, and I prefer legal evidence over "reports". I'm quite familiar with "reports".
    So it is you that is the hypocrite... in the Roman Polanski case you condemn him without a finished trial, despite the clear evidence of corruption with the Judge, but with the paedophile Christian cult you want "legal evidence" all of a sudden?

    If you wish to defend perverts you should try to be a little informed and a little consistent.
    I am not defending any perverts.. it is you actually that are defending the paedophile Christian cult in question. There is no doubt about the abuse, there is plenty of evidence, but you want "legal evidence" all of a sudden? Is that code for you want to protect their religious beliefs or something? I know the various states use this excuse to keep them in business.. but come on..... there are many former cult members who come time and time with similar accounts. There are the people who testified against Jeff and so on and so on.. The evidence is there, but the US government does nothing to help the young children being abused on a daily basis.

    To repeat, I thinik Mr. Jeff belongs in prison.
    What about all the followers? Are you seriously deluded enough to think that a 14 year old girl married off to a 40 year old on the orders of Jeff, is not raped by her new husband as soon as possible? Are you so seriously deluded to dismiss the accusations from multiple former cult members, that children are forced to have sex with each other as soon as the cult deem them sexually mature?

    I just wondered if the supporters for the other, admitted, rapist of underage girls would rally to the defense of Mr. Jeff. Apparently, they won't. They'll continue to defend Roman Polanski though.
    LOL you just dont get the difference eh?.. Polanski may or may not have raped one.. ak 1, uno, une.. girl.. 30 years ago. Also he plead NOT GUILTY to the charges, but in a plea deal he accepted the lesser charge of "unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor".. a plea deal, no admission of guilt as of yet... because the plea deal was in large parts thrown out by a power hungry judge that saw this case as a way to get up in the world.

    Jeff and his followers have raped hundreds if not thousands of girls over decades and CONTINUE TO DO IT TODAY!
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