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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Please then, educate me.
    I think you are quite capable of educating yourself!
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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You think people were living of the 1.5% interest their savings accounts were paying?
    There's no doubt that lower interest rates are good for borrowers and bad for savers. No way to spin that one.
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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I think you are quite capable of educating yourself!
    What does that have to do with what I said? The article claims to say why one measure is better than the other. It's nothing more than governmental gobbly gook. I said using the same formula as used in 1978, inflation a few months ago would have been measured around 10%. (from my recollection)

    Are you saying that it wouldn't have been notably higher?

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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    The USA is toast and here is why:

    Massive debt
    Foreign wars
    Wages are WAY too high compared to the rest of the world
    Lazy, dumb generation of kids
    Corrupt moronic political system

    No way out.. no way out.
    Interestingly, this is also why the Roman Empire (and many others) are toast. It's not morning in America, that's for sure.
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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The solution for some is to add more and more debt. You don't fix a problem by multiplying it. I have a hard time feeling bad for the entity that gives an alcoholic a bottle of booze and then gets upset when they puke on their shoes.
    This is the best description of the Fed's easy money policies EVER. perfect.
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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Disputatious71 View Post
    Amazing that is the same number I saw during the week of the Obama/Reid deficit circus! It is a shame that the biggest losers are the average Americans that have retirement money losing value thus making them less likely to retire anytime soon, of course the public sector employees are still retirement insured by the tax payers that must now work longer and harder to enjoy those same golden years... maybe...
    Obama/Reid were not the ones holding the economy hostage to raise the debt ceiling in order to pay our current obligations.
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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    The USA is toast and here is why:

    Massive debt
    Foreign wars
    Wages are WAY too high compared to the rest of the world
    Lazy, dumb generation of kids
    Corrupt moronic political system

    No way out.. no way out.
    Which country are you from?
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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    What does that have to do with what I said? The article claims to say why one measure is better than the other. It's nothing more than governmental gobbly gook. I said using the same formula as used in 1978, inflation a few months ago would have been measured around 10%. (from my recollection)

    Are you saying that it wouldn't have been notably higher?
    As you probably know, the CPI Index calculations were changed, in 1995, to include an 'hedonics' fudge factor, which in essence is a big lie, and both 'Parties' benefit from the lie, so the farce goes on.

    shadowstats.com has a graph somewhere in its site that has both pre-1995 CPI calculations and post-1995 calculations on the same graph for a comparison of the two methods. The old CPI calculations had their own flaws, that is another topic, but they were far closer to the truth than the post-1995 calculations.

    It's worth noting that the Japanese and European banks consider the government's CPI numbers farcical and use their own estimates, not our government's, when making their decisions about the U.S. economy.

    If anybody needs a 'source' for this, get your own subscription to The Economist. It's a fairly frequent topic in there.

    Not relevant to the topic, but why do you like 1978 as a base year, or is that just the year your sources use? I think 1972 is a better base year, pre-Oil Crisis Hoax, but maybe the data isn't as extensive or something. A lot of these stats in newer books and articles only go back to 1980 or so, I've noticed.
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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    As you probably know, the CPI Index calculations were changed, in 1995, to include an 'hedonics' fudge factor, which in essence is a big lie, and both 'Parties' benefit from the lie, so the farce goes on.
    Yep, as I said somewhere else, I'm not blaming Obama for changing the numbers.

    shadowstats.com has a graph somewhere in its site that has both pre-1995 CPI calculations and post-1995 calculations on the same graph for a comparison of the two methods. The old CPI calculations had their own flaws, that is another topic, but they were far closer to the truth than the post-1995 calculations.
    My point wasn't even that the old way was better. (I personally believe it was in many regards) but that wasn't my point.

    It's worth noting that the Japanese and European banks consider the government's CPI numbers farcical and use their own estimates, not our government's, when making their decisions about the U.S. economy.

    If anybody needs a 'source' for this, get your own subscription to The Economist. It's a fairly frequent topic in there.
    Interesting. I didn't know this.

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    Re: Stocks pile on losses amid worries on economy

    Wages are WAY too high compared to the rest of the world
    Thanks for the sarcasm. Humor is always appreciated.

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