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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Those are interesting conclusions, given the fact that Obama didn't take ANY corporate donations.
    His largest single donation came from Goldman Sachs that is indeed a corporation.

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    Re: Firm gives $1 million to pro-Romney group, then dissolves(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Apparently you didn't read the articles linked to my last post before responding. Obama accepted internet donations from people with names like "Good Will" among many others. These were not isolated incidents and about as "transparent" as watching the health care debates on CSPAN. That's just a fraction of of the fraud committed.

    Controversy Over Obama's Small Donors - The Daily Beast
    Did you expect that he would have people manually accepting each of the millions of donations he received, who actively screened out suspicious names? Or is it more likely that donations were accepted automatically through an automated online system?

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    Re: Firm gives $1 million to pro-Romney group, then dissolves(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Did you expect that he would have people manually accepting each of the millions of donations he received, who actively screened out suspicious names? Or is it more likely that donations were accepted automatically through an automated online system?
    I guess the "screening process" didn't work too well now did it? The security measures to prevent illegal or anonymous contributions from flowing into its accounts were ineffective. So therefore, it was OK for Obama's campaign to accept donations from unknown donors then? Because that's what happened. You obviously still haven't read the articles before responding to them.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's right, if people choose to spend their money bribing the legislature, that's their business!

    Now I'm going to go out and buy some crack cocaine and hire a htiman to rub out my noisy neighbors.
    Don't forget to bring back some hookers for the rest of us!!!
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I'm not sure how that addresses my point. If someone thinks candidate A is the best candidate and they want to spend $1 million telling others what they think, why is that your business?

    It's not different than what each candidate will do. The next presidential election will see hundreds of millions of dollars spent with each candidate saying "I'm the best" but someone else can't spend their money stating "I believe he's the best"?
    A corporation is not a person.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Sort of like P.P. does? Anyway, have a link showing where they do this?



    If you are against doing that, how exactly will knowing where the money came from change anything? Will your position not stay exactly the same no matter what?
    I think people just want to know who are paying their leaders, which is a reasonable inquiry... Nobody is trying to stop campaign contributions or tell people what to do with their money, you're just trying to distort the **** out of this conversation.

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    His largest single donation came from Goldman Sachs that is indeed a corporation.
    His largest single donation was $2,300 -- the individual donation limit. He did not accept donations from Corporations or PACs. If individuals who worked for Golmand chose to support him, what was he supposed to do? Say no thanks? I don't like the company you work for?

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Not a fair question. Are tax exempt entities supposed to be supporting political campaigns? If you want to argue that none of them should be allowed to set up side ventures to do this, I'll not argue. As long as it covers all of them.
    Religious orgs get their tax exemption in return for staying out of electoral politics. Tax avoidance schemes are a crime.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Public money can only come from private sources. No, it's absolutely wrong to state that we should give politicians billions of dollars to lie to us and not have any recourse to call them on it.

    That would not stop what you are complaining about. I asked above and I'll ask again, if Romney would spend 60 bazillion dollars would it ever change your mind to vote for him?

    Now, if he simply said that he agreed with everything you believed in and would vote accordingly if you voted for him, would you then consider it?
    It would depend on where the money came from. If it came from Al Queda, you can be damn sure it would have an effect.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Not a fair question. Are tax exempt entities supposed to be supporting political campaigns? If you want to argue that none of them should be allowed to set up side ventures to do this, I'll not argue. As long as it covers all of them.
    BS it is a fair question. And if you're not going to argue his point, then you shouldn't have a problem with understanding other people's concern about things like this happening.

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