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    Re: Firm gives $1 million to pro-Romney group, then dissolves(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Obama accepted ONLY small donations -- no corporate donations. That's as transparent as you can get under the system we had in '08. Of course all bets are off, now. Unlimited anonymous contributions here we come!
    Apparently you didn't read the articles linked to my last post before responding. Obama accepted internet donations from people with names like "Good Will" among many others. These were not isolated incidents and about as "transparent" as watching the health care debates on CSPAN. That's just a fraction of of the fraud committed.

    Controversy Over Obama's Small Donors - The Daily Beast

    The Obama campaign has shattered all fund-raising records, raking in $458 million so far, with about half the bounty coming from donors who contribute $200 or less. Aides say that's an illustration of a truly democratic campaign. To critics, though, it can be an invitation for fraud and illegal foreign cash because donors giving individual sums of $200 or less don't have to be publicly reported. Consider the cases of Obama donors "Doodad Pro" of Nunda, N.Y., who gave $17,130, and "Good Will" of Austin, Texas, who gave more than $11,000óboth in excess of the $2,300-per-person federal limit. In two recent letters to the Obama campaign, Federal Election Commission auditors flagged those (and other) donors and informed the campaign that the sums had to be returned. Neither name had ever been publicly reported because both individuals made online donations in $10 and $25 increments. "Good Will" listed his employer as "Loving" and his occupation as "You," while supplying as his address 1015 Norwood Park Boulevard, which is shared by the Austin nonprofit Goodwill Industries. Suzanha Burmeister, marketing director for Goodwill, said the group had "no clue" who the donor was. She added, however, that the group had received five puzzling thank-you letters from the Obama campaign this year, prompting it to send the campaign an e-mail in September pointing out the apparent fraudulent use of its name.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But atleast the names of President Obama's campaign donors are public! Per the article, we know exactly who made the contributions and from which company their represent, if any (i.e., some of the donors are "former" employees of major corporations, not CEOs or the like).
    As are the donors to Romney's campaign.

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    As are the donors to Romney's campaign.
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    Let's not play ignorant here. You know very well I'm referring to the W Spann, LLC contribution. And thanks for acknowledging that he did, in fact, receive a campaign contribution - indirectly though it may be - from this "corporation" that suddenly no longer exsists.

    As for the claims made by the Prof and his conservative cohert (sorry, dude...can't pronounce your screen name let alone read it; so I'll just call you "the mystery person with lettering similar to the artist formerly known as" and leave it at that), you do know those claims of questionable campaign contributions are so pre-President Obama, right? If you can show that they were, in fact, illegal AND that the President's campaign directors did not repay the funds when questioned concerning them, I'm with in denouncing them 100%. With few exceptions, we know exactly who made contributions to the 2008 Obama presidential campaing, by name and company association. We don't have that information where Mitt Romney and W. Spann, LLC are concerned. That's the difference here.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    As for the claims made by the Prof
    i made no claims

    politico, wapo, abc, huffpo, lat and msnbc did

    they said that obama was the top recipient of bp cash and his epa waived impact studies

    they said obama was tops on aig's list, too, they also said tim geithner's fed instructed aig to keep sweetheart secrets from the sec

    in conclusion, the sources noted that obama was #1 with the forlorn f's which were exempted from his massive regulatory reform

    all i contributed was a question

    change worth believing in, anyone?

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    1Perry,

    Let's not play ignorant here. You know very well I'm referring to the W Spann, LLC contribution. And thanks for acknowledging that he did, in fact, receive a campaign contribution - indirectly though it may be - from this "corporation" that suddenly no longer exsists.
    He recieved nothing from them. "Indirectly" what the hell is that supposed to mean? Yes, they obviously said nice things about him. Is that now a crime?

    As for the claims made by the Prof and his conservative cohert (sorry, dude...can't pronounce your screen name let alone read it; so I'll just call you "the mystery person with lettering similar to the artist formerly known as" and leave it at that), you do know those claims of questionable campaign contributions are so pre-President Obama, right? If you can show that they were, in fact, illegal AND that the President's campaign directors did not repay the funds when questioned concerning them, I'm with in denouncing them 100%. With few exceptions, we know exactly who made contributions to the 2008 Obama presidential campaing, by name and company association. We don't have that information where Mitt Romney and W. Spann, LLC are concerned. That's the difference here.
    As far as I know (and you know) we know the names of everyone that has made a contribution to Romney's campaign. No exceptions.

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i made no claims

    politico, wapo, abc, huffpo, lat and msnbc did

    they said that obama was the top recipient of bp cash and his epa waived impact studies

    they said obama was tops on aig's list, too, they also said tim geithner's fed instructed aig to keep sweetheart secrets from the sec

    in conclusion, the sources noted that obama was #1 with the forlorn f's which were exempted from his massive regulatory reform

    all i contributed was a question

    change worth believing in, anyone?
    I guess sweetheart deals aren't based upon keeping your name a secret.

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i made no claims

    politico, wapo, abc, huffpo, lat and msnbc did

    they said that obama was the top recipient of bp cash and his epa waived impact studies

    they said obama was tops on aig's list, too, they also said tim geithner's fed instructed aig to keep sweetheart secrets from the sec

    in conclusion, the sources noted that obama was #1 with the forlorn f's which were exempted from his massive regulatory reform

    all i contributed was a question

    change worth believing in, anyone?
    Those are interesting conclusions, given the fact that Obama didn't take ANY corporate donations.

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i made no claims

    politico, wapo, abc, huffpo, lat and msnbc did
    But you referenced them in an attempt to support your "unspoken" claim that President Obama's no different where his 2008 presidential campaign contributions were concerned. Based on your references, the actions by the two - Obama and Romney - are somewhat different.

    they said that obama was the top recipient of bp cash and his epa waived impact studies

    they said obama was tops on aig's list, too, they also said tim geithner's fed instructed aig to keep sweetheart secrets from the sec

    in conclusion, the sources noted that obama was #1 with the forlorn f's which were exempted from his massive regulatory reform

    all i contributed was a question
    And what does him receiving large campaign contributions have to do with the issue at hand? Again, the issue isn't how much either has received; it is how they received it. So, again, if you can provide proof that Obama either while campaigning in 2008 or even now as President, has received campaign contributions that were illegal or as ethically questionable as the contribution Romney's received, then I'm right there with you denouncing the President's actions.

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Those are interesting conclusions, given the fact that Obama didn't take ANY corporate donations.
    Correct! His campaign contributions came from "individuals" - people, not businesses or business entities (corporations).

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