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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    No, bribery isn't legal in the US despite what others believe.
    It's just "playing the game" and "currying long-debted favors". The government has no right to intervene on the actions of individuals, as they are simply "taking part in democracy"
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Here, I'll even give you the link. Hint: there were no Goldman PAC donations to Obama.

    Search Campaign Finance Summary Data

    So CNN was Lying?

    Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor - CNN


    Wall Street's top investment bank was a generous contributor to Obama's presidential campaign.



    According to Federal Election Commission figures compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, Goldman Sachs' political action committee and individual contributors who listed the company as their employer donated $994,795 during 2007 and 2008 to Obama's presidential campaign, the second-highest contribution from a company PAC and company employees.



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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Retaliation is a legitimate concern. That's where a sticky wicket is.

    I think I should be able to withhold my custom from a business that does things I don't approve of, including making donations to candidates or issues I'm against.

    However, some might use this information to harass or vandalize an individual or business, which actually has happened. Addressing this facet of the issue is where the trouble lies. But I think it is something that could be dealt with appropriately.
    People have to reveal their names to the FEC. Corps don't deserve special rights.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    You have no idea what was done here. Groups have provided lump sums for a long time. From Emily's list.

    EMILY’s List, whose name is an acronym (Early Money is Like Yeast), is a national political action committee that works to elect pro-choice female Democrats. The group has turned the bundling of campaign contributions into an art form, enlisting thousands of members nationwide to direct their money to key races. Because much of that money comes in donations below the $200 threshold for reporting, the totals given by EMILY’s List members is considerably greater than the official totals reflected in FEC reports. Abortion rights have always been a key issue for the group, though recently, its agenda has also expanded toward economic and social issues, like education funding.

    So they report contributions over $200. Anything under $200 they don't even bother reporting. Enough of them can add up to some serious money.

    EMILY's List: Summary | OpenSecrets
    I don't see in your link where mystery companies formed for the sole purpose of making a million dollar donation and then dissolved.
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't see in your link where mystery companies formed for the sole purpose of making a million dollar donation and then dissolved.
    Nor did I attempt to make that point. I pointed out where other groups are taking in money and not reporting where that money comes from and have been even before the USSC's ruling.

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Nor did I attempt to make that point. I pointed out where other groups are taking in money and not reporting where that money comes from and have been even before the USSC's ruling.
    But no individual is giving $1m contributions to candidates through EL without disclosure. Maybe you can find something more relevant?
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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    A Union isn't a citizen. All special interests should be prohibited.
    I bet!............

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's your tax dollars they're buying with their contributions. And they're buying them on the cheap.
    Do you understand the difference between public money and private money?

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Unions either.

    Dues should go to support the interest of the union members and his/her fellow employees on work-related matters, not so that the union can put its collective membership support behind a political candidate. A union can "suggest" who its membership should support because it is believed that that candidate supports the interest of the membership. But in the end it is the vote by the union members whether they should support that candidate as a whole, not an arbitrary decision made by the union on behalf of its members. As such, I would not support any union who uses membership dues arbitrarily to put financial support behind a candidate no matter which party.

    Now, if the Union members hold a vote and the majority agrees to it, that's a different story. Same goes for corporations with either their Board of Directors or the entirety of their employee compliment. But you don't do it arbitrarily and you must have full disclosure which should include identifying the ownership and the Board membership. Same goes for unions, i.e., Union President, Board, etc.

    It's about full disclosure and fairness. I see neither in this W Spann/Restore Our American matter.
    Ohhhhhhhhh! Now, that's different? Why am I not surprised that?

    Does that mean that you believe unions should have to actually pay taxes, too?

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    Re: Super PAC's try end around

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    You do understand that public financing would mean

    A) politicians would spend more time doing their jobs instead of hustling campaign contributions.

    B) they would be less prone to sell us out for said contributions.

    There are states that do this now. And from what I remember, they like it that way.
    Spend more time raising my taxes, you mean?

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