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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Seemed to work pretty well during WWII.
    Really? Do you really think so? I don't. We were largely unprepared and it took us years to get to the point where we knew what we were doing and could win. Had it not been for the Soviet Union we would not have won WWII.
    We were third rate for most of that war.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No problem, been lots of wars. Very profitable wars, I might add, if you are a Military Offense contractor.
    I prefer War Department to Department of Defense. Kick Ass and Take Names Department would be acceptable also.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Well, the nukes half of it is already irrelevant because ICBM's make nuclear bombs completely redundant. As I said before, we have 14 submarines that are each capable of reducing an entire country to ashes.
    Once upon a time, in another life, far, far, away from here I had to get very familiar with our nuclear weapons and capabilities. The weapons we have are there to solve specific problems. The ones that are no longer there were given away for political purposes. We need to keep the remaining weapons so long as the problems they are meant to solve remain.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Carpet bombing is made even more obsolete by precision weapons. A pack of A-10's can destroy more targets with less ordnance because you don't waste so much energy blowing up every random building in a four block area, not to mention that "doesn't mass-murder civilians" aspect.
    About half of the aging A-10s are on active duty. The other half are in the Reserves and National Guard squadrons.

    Air operations have changed somewhat in the years since WWII and Viet-nam. We seldom "carpet bomb" except in those cases where it is appropriate. Most delivered weapons are one or two weapons to destroy one target. But I think you actually know how careful we are to prevent civilians from being killed.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    We don't even need aircraft for this anymore. A single missile sub can destroy a hardened target with a single cruise missile. There really isn't any need for strategic bombers anymore, where I classify strategic to not include B-2s flying precision missions half way across the globe. When was the last time we carpet bombed anything? Vietnam?
    I am in awe of the tremendous, profoundly deep thinking on this subject. We no longer need aircraft because cruise missiles can be launched from submarines...I suppose there is no longer a need to find targets. We just know where they are. And targets no longer move around so there is no longer a need to actually put eyes on the target. And no enemy ever tries to get close to Americans any longer. So again, the requirement to adjust to the enemy, in real time, has clearly gone away.

    Thank goodness for this board! We can eliminate most of our general officers, whole squadrons of aircraft, and just put more cruise missiles on submarines. And what a bargain! For $800K a pop we should use them for every purpose.

    Awesome!
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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Link short-term war spending with short-term tax increases to pay for them.
    We'll see how many republicans pursue sensless wars.
    I cannot imagine any Republican being for a senseless war.
    Nor can I imagine any Democrat being for a war that furthers our national interests.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Iraq's army was a joke as evident by its crushing defeat in Desert Storm. 3 years later Iraq was pulverized. Anyone who thinks Iraq's military wasn't a joke has zero understanding of combat power and it's employment on the battlefield.
    I am in awe of your brilliance, as a strategist, as a tactician, in addition to your brilliance as an analyst. Or maybe it is much simpler to make sweeping pronouncements after the fact. Yep. That could be it.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you agree with me that we ought to drill here, drill now? And do you also agree that the best form of power for all of our large scale fixed facility needs is nuclear power? Do you disagree with the one term Marxist president Obama on his scheme to destroy the coal industry?

    Those things are crucial if we are to reduce out dependence on oil from the Middle East.
    Our consumption has exceeded our supply for the last 40 years. And that was with all the easy to get to oil that is now gone. Cheney and co-horts pointed this out in their call for war against Iraq. Do you realize the US alone uses 25% of the earth's oil???
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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I cannot imagine any Republican being for a senseless war.
    You've never heard of the Iraq war???
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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The Russians and the Chinese are ready to pick it up. Blood for oil notwithstanding...
    The Chinese have a $118 Billion dollar military budget and Russia's is even less. We spend more than 6 times what China does!
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