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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    "Analysts believe the defense cuts for
    the short term will be modest, and that cuts over the next decade or so may
    sound nasty, but they will be determined by the next president and consequently
    may never be enacted."

    Why am I not surprised? I bet when a republican is elected, they'll beef the spending back up...
    Let us hope so.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Let us hope so.
    indeed. we need to replace the stuff that is falling apart now - the Reagan Buildup won't sustain us indefinitely.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Apparently you never heard of a emergency dumping. Furthermore, they don't need to light it themselves. The ground support troops they are supporting can do that.
    not to get too deep into this debate - but speaking as a ground troop and a weaponeer, this is the kind of thing that could happen in a movie, and never in real life.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    George Washington got into a similar argument. He argued that the enemy ought to be considered when deciding just how much to spend on preparations for war. He won the argument.
    the best time to win a war is years before it starts.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Not if we pull our ass out of the Middle East.
    Do you agree with me that we ought to drill here, drill now? And do you also agree that the best form of power for all of our large scale fixed facility needs is nuclear power? Do you disagree with the one term Marxist president Obama on his scheme to destroy the coal industry?

    Those things are crucial if we are to reduce out dependence on oil from the Middle East.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    when that war comes, then we spend money like we are in a war... simple as that
    When we do that we fight the war in a "come as your are" fashion. That will cost American blood, American limbs, and American lives.

    It is a far better thing to be prepared to fight the wars we must in the way we prefer to.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Our military spending is greater than the rest of the world's military spending combined. It's absurd.
    We could save vast amounts of money by returning to a draft. Two-thirds of the cost of our military is the cost of people.

    I prefer a highly compensated, professional, well trained, well armed, well equipped military that can win to one done cheaply in treasure but costly in lives.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I'm in favor of defense cuts by decreasing it to its 2/3 size.
    . . .
    If the defense budget is fully reformed, it would be like cutting the budget to 1/2 of its size while still maitaining every troop, every piece of equipment, everything but those civilian bureaucrats . . .
    Given that two-thirds of the cost of the military is the cost of its personnel how is this possible?
    Last edited by Misterveritis; 08-13-11 at 03:29 PM.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Iraq's army was a joke,
    Only compared to ours. Iraq fought Iran to a standstill. We defeated Iraq swiftly with few dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    and even then it took us five years to effectively secure the country.
    Counter-insurgency, counter-terrorism is always slow, no matter where one does it.
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    Afghanistan's army is practically in the stone age and we're not exactly putting the fear of God into them.
    Perhaps you are unaware that the Afghani Army is an ally. Or maybe you meant the tribes, the Taliban, and Al Qaeda.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Our army was built to fight the Cold War -- not the spot conflicts we're facing. If something really bad crops up there is always the option of instituting a draft.
    How much do you know about America's military? Your comments are indicators that your knowledge is shallow. That is not bad, in itself. Your opinion, as opinion, is no less valid.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Afganistan - October 7th 2001 - August 3rd 2011.

    9 years, 9 months 28 days.
    still there.
    hardly an ass kicking.
    The Taliban and Al Qaeda were defeated in a few months.
    We are there to keep the Taliban and Al Qaeda from returning. We do not need to win. We need to prevent the Taliban and Al Qaeda from winning.

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