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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

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    You don't even know the difference between strategic and tactical strikes, do you?
    Yes, I get the difference. Tactical strikes are useful. Strategic strikes are not. Why am I even bothering to argue with you?
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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then you simply wish to kick the can down the road, and not fix the problem.
    How did you come to that conclusion? My proposal reduces deficit spending far further than anything the GOP has proposed, and fixes the problems with SS and Medicare without adding to the deficit or reducing benefits to seniors who are already hard strapped to get by.

    When you refuse to significantly address something that makes 55% of our spending and is a number that grows a percentage almost every year while making a huge deal about something that makes up 1/3rd of that number it shows you don't have any honest desire to fix the financial issue but rather to use and amnipulate the financial problems of this country as a means to push your political agenda of anti-military policy in the guise of fiscal responsability. You are no different than the Republicans who want to cut a sliver of defense spending but look towards entitlements and again simply use our fiscal problems as a tool and a prop to disguise their purely political agenda.
    You have assumed incorrectly. We need to cut military spending in half because it is the most wasteful big chunk of our deficit spending. That does not mean however that I think we don't need to make SS solvent beyond the 26 years it can remain so. Raising the FICA cap from the current $106,000 to $180,000 makes SS solvent for the long term. without cutting benefits to seniors. The problem with medicare is the same problem with private health insurance, the fact that the we have the most expensive health care system in the world. To fix that problem we will need to upgrade our health care system as the rest of the industrialized world has done.
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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Yes, I get the difference. Tactical strikes are useful. Strategic strikes are not. Why am I even bothering to argue with you?
    Ok, then obviously, you don't understand the difference between an area target and a point target.

    Obviously, not. If you did, you would understand that carpet bombing has a specific tactical purpose that is different from precision bombing.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The Iraqi army was a shell of its former self when we invaded, thanks to the butt kicking they took in the first Gulf War plus bombing missions that eliminated their air defenses, plus the elimination of all WMDs through years of inspections. Not to mention the damage it suffered during said Iran-Iraq war.
    Where do you people get this crap from?

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by shintao View Post
    I think inserting assassination squads to take out the top ten leaders is a better solution, more cost effective, less lives lost, less VA medical bills, less VA benefits needed, more humane approach.
    ...more illegal and violation of U.S. and international law. Ya'll are all about the law, right?

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How did you come to that conclusion? My proposal reduces deficit spending far further than anything the GOP has proposed, and fixes the problems with SS and Medicare without adding to the deficit or reducing benefits to seniors who are already hard strapped to get by.



    You have assumed incorrectly. We need to cut military spending in half because it is the most wasteful big chunk of our deficit spending. That does not mean however that I think we don't need to make SS solvent beyond the 26 years it can remain so. Raising the FICA cap from the current $106,000 to $180,000 makes SS solvent for the long term. without cutting benefits to seniors. The problem with medicare is the same problem with private health insurance, the fact that the we have the most expensive health care system in the world. To fix that problem we will need to upgrade our health care system as the rest of the industrialized world has done.
    I have a better idea: Let's stop giving bennies to people who haven't paid into the system.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our armed forces have been cut in half over the past two decades. If we decrease it by another third, what will be left?

    All these cuts will cost lives.
    What the HELL are you talking about!?!? Its gone UP!!!! Youre not listening to those propaganda pushers again are ya???

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    What the HELL are you talking about!?!? Its gone UP!!!! Youre not listening to those propaganda pushers again are ya???

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    As Cpwill pointed out in an earlier post: You're confusing the budget with combat power. Our military--the actual physical force--is half the size it was in 1990.

    Propaganda? No. Reality? Yes.

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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As Cpwill pointed out in an earlier post: You're confusing the budget with combat power. Our military--the actual physical force--is half the size it was in 1990.

    Propaganda? No. Reality? Yes.
    Ah! Well you can say the same about the Ford plant that makes the Taurus. Thing is you dont need as many people to do the job. And by the way we are talking about money spent in the thread.
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    Re: ‘Pentagon’s Worst Nightmare’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Ah! Well you can say the same about the Ford plant that makes the Taurus. Thing is you dont need as many people to do the job.
    Isn't it better to have too many than not enough? I guess it's all good to you, since it's not your ass on the line, but the guys who are out there want to know that they won't be left with their asses hanging in the wind, because you are more concerned with funding global warming research than keeping their asses alive in the kill zone.



    And by the way we are talking about money spent in the thread.
    And, not the lives lost, because of the budget cuts?

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