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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, the increasing or eliminating the cap does not turn them into welfare programs. You are conflating means testing and the FICA cap.
    Okay so seeing, according to you, SS is not a welfare program, then surely you would agree that no one regardless of wealth, should be allowed to take out of SS more then what they have paid in right ?

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Now it is doing less well
    you can say that again

    yesterday: Labor Force Participation Hits New Low - Real Time Economics - WSJ

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The economy hasn't gotten up to doing relatively well, since the Democrats took over. I don't just blame Obama, I blame the Dems in Congress, too.
    We need jobs to fuel the economy, according to most people it is not the governments job to create work, 7 years of the Bush tax cuts only produced new jobs for foreign countries, so it's not the job of the governent to create jobs and tax cuts have not produced jobs so where do you think they will come from? Do you think reducing the deficit will create jobs or cause a rise in unemployment?

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Okay so seeing, according to you, SS is not a welfare program, then surely you would agree that no one regardless of wealth, should be allowed to take out of SS more then what they have paid in right ?
    Wrong the SS trust fund accumulates interest just like any other investment, so those who pay into SS should get a return on investment

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    As has been noted, the Democrats took over Congress under FY2007 when the economy was on the way up and deficits were on the way down. FY2008 2009 2010 all transpired while they were in power.

    As has been noted, spending programs passed by republicans under bush*, such as Medicare D, TSA, HSA, wars, servicing the debt (accumulated under repub presidents), record setting and pork laden energy, transportation and ag bills, continued during those years.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    in july a dept of energy study based on census data found that 98% of americans living below the poverty line have a tv, 81% a microwave, 78% air conditioning, 71% a vcr, 65% a second tv, 65% a dvd, 64% cable, 55% cellphone...

    on the other hand, only 29% of americans below the poverty line have an xbox and 28% have a printer

    Modern Poverty Includes A.C. and an Xbox - By Ken McIntyre - The Corner - National Review Online
    And during the great depression poor people had cars, farms, owned their homes, etc In many ways, the american poor of old had it better than the american poor of today
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Okay so seeing, according to you, SS is not a welfare program, then surely you would agree that no one regardless of wealth, should be allowed to take out of SS more then what they have paid in right ?
    No, I wouldnt agree with your leading question. I rarely agree to leading questions
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    There goes the rightwings claim that "the govt doesn't create jobs" right under the bus
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    the american poor of old had it better than the american poor of today
    MORE than 78% had air conditioning?

    LOL!

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The economy hasn't gotten up to doing relatively well, since the Democrats took over. I don't just blame Obama, I blame the Dems in Congress, too.
    The economy hasn't done "well" in this century...... under the stewardship of either party. One party just happened to take a good economy from the late 1990's and screw up so bad that the next party hasn't been able to pull it out of its tailspin.

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