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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    the bowles simpson commission---that prestigious body the president hid behind for a year and then completely ignored in the only budget he's submitted to congress in 3 years, the budget his own senate defeated, 97 to 0---recommends that the ultimate FIX for social security is gonna have to require all four reforms

    the cap, the means, the age, the bennies

    Fiscal Commission Co-Chairs Simpson And Bowles Release Eye-Popping Recommendations | TPMDC

    a program, especially one of such epic scale, that can't keep its fundamental promises is a ripoff
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    amazing. you mean a nation tapped it's abundant natural resources by drilling for oil and it made it's citizenry wealthier?

    i'm astonished, simply astonished.
    If you would study up on the issue you would not be so astonished. The US produces more oil than either Norway or Canada. The problem is that we consume 25% of the oil on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Very good, you can cut and paste. This however, doesn't mean you understand, or apply the clause properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sorry if you find yourself so boring. I have to wonder why you bother posting if you don't want anyone to respond to you?

    Anyway, revenue is not synonymous with taxes. Here is the breakdown of how the program is financed:

    Don't let sangha see your little chart. He still claims that the health care bill didn't cut Medicare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    There is if you want to cash in any of the $2.6T in SSTF IOUs.
    The money to make good on those IOUs can only come from the general fund or borrowing; either will increase the deficit.
    Raising the FICA cap and eliminating the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy does not increase the deficit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Irrelevant to the issue -- you stated that the war in Iraq is the biggest part of the increase in the debt.
    This is demonstrably false, as noted.
    So... you're either lying, or you do not know any better.
    It is the biggest part of our recent debt, and without doubt the most wasteful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The wars in Iraq and Afgh are the 3rd largest cause of the deficits and increase in the debt


    Thanks Sangha, people tend to forget this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Don't let sangha see your little chart. He still claims that the health care bill didn't cut Medicare.
    It did not cut benefits, it cut waste in the program. I thought that is what we wanted? I much prefer that to cutting benefits to seniors that the GOP has proposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is the biggest part of our recent debt, and without doubt the most wasteful.
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    Thanks Sangha, people tend to forget this.
    Your last two posts contradict each other in an obvious way.
    Last edited by mpg; 08-04-11 at 06:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It did not cut benefits, it cut waste in the program. I thought that is what we wanted? I much prefer that to cutting benefits to seniors that the GOP has proposed.
    Cutting payments to doctors cuts benefits to seniors. That's been well documented in this thread.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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