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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    few (beside you) care what i do or don't agree with

    the cbo says obamacare reduces the deficit 145B

    at the cost of MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS OF A T in new taxes

    it says what it says

    grow up

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    then we better and hurry up and pop the cap on FICA contributions removing that $106K top limit.
    no skin off MY teeth

    LOL!

    for decades, the argument against raising the cap or means testing benefits was that it was very important that social security remain an insurance and not a welfare program

    let aarp vice president rother make the case, may 19:

    A means test for their earned benefits would erode the popular support that has sustained these programs and made them so effective in helping older households. Making Social Security more like welfare would surely lead to weaker benefits and a growing burden on young people to support struggling elders.
    Social Security, Medicare Are Not Welfare - Benefits - Programs - AARP

    the idea of social security as managed retirement is, after all these years, illusion?

    fdr's most enduring contribution is in essence welfare?

    our longest serving president would be heartbroken to hear it

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    few (beside you) care what i do or don't agree with

    the cbo says obamacare reduces the deficit 145B

    at the cost of MORE THAN THREE QUARTERS OF A T in new taxes

    it says what it says

    grow up
    Hmm. Well, I've read Elmendorf's letter and I see where he says that repealing ACA would increase the deficit by $360 billion over 20 years, but I don't see anything in there saying that it would increase taxes by more than $750 billion. Perhaps you could point out where it says that?

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    by now, you're boring the hell out of yourself

    enacting H.R. 2 would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no skin off MY teeth

    LOL!

    for decades, the argument against raising the cap or means testing benefits was that it was very important that social security remain an insurance and not a welfare program

    let aarp vice president rother make the case, may 19:



    Social Security, Medicare Are Not Welfare - Benefits - Programs - AARP

    the idea of social security as managed retirement is, after all these years, illusion?

    fdr's most enduring contribution is in essence welfare?

    our longest serving president would be heartbroken to hear it
    SS, Medicare are not welfare programs, if you are opposed to removing the cap then how about if we just redirect the tax cuts to the wealthy that SS funds were used to finance

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    SS, Medicare are not welfare programs...
    Because they are not means tested. Adding means testing and eliminating the cap changes them into welfare programs.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    ask the 44 dem senators who voted to extend the bush/obama/clinton/boehner/mcconnell tax cuts to the rich during lame duck

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40675581...-capitol_hill/
    Last edited by The Prof; 08-04-11 at 11:36 AM.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    by now, you're boring the hell out of yourself

    enacting H.R. 2 would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion
    Sorry if you find yourself so boring. I have to wonder why you bother posting if you don't want anyone to respond to you?

    Anyway, revenue is not synonymous with taxes. Here is the breakdown of how the program is financed:


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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    LOL!

    fees, penalties, excises and "other revenue provisions"

    and a HALF TRILLION IN CUTS to medicare

    Capitol Briefing - Senate votes to keep Medicare cuts

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Because they are not means tested. Adding means testing and eliminating the cap changes them into welfare programs.
    No, the increasing or eliminating the cap does not turn them into welfare programs. You are conflating means testing and the FICA cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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