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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Ad hominem?
    of course not

    mr kinsley, bless his bleeding heart, is a gentleman, has been since the days he co hosted crossfire with first novak and later pat

    that was 30 years ago...

    he's been very ill now ten years---parkinsons

    he's just about as partisan a source, however, as you're gonna find

    more power to ya, of course

    but, personally, i stay away from breitbarts and redstates

    cuz i know what my opponents would do to me if i pasted em

    link on, laddie, link liberally

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    of course not

    mr kinsley, bless his bleeding heart, is a gentleman, has been since the days he co hosted crossfire with first novak and later pat

    that was 30 years ago...

    he's been very ill now ten years---parkinsons

    he's just about as partisan a source, however, as you're gonna find

    more power to ya, of course

    but, personally, i stay away from breitbarts and redstates

    cuz i know what my opponents would do to me if i pasted em

    link on, laddie, link liberally
    Of course both of your replies were, by definition, ad hominem attacks. You attacked (or attempted to) the messenger and failed to address the message. And the silliest part of it is that Kinsey didn't even write the piece.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which ones are you referring to?

    Please, be specific, don't give us the usual, lame ass, "oil company subsidies", line of crapola.
    Read this article Oil Companies Reap Billions From Subsidies - NYTimes.com

    According to the most recent study by the Congressional Budget Office, released in 2005, capital investments like oil field leases and drilling equipment are taxed at an effective rate of 9 percent, significantly lower than the overall rate of 25 percent for businesses in general and lower than virtually any other industry.

    And for many small and midsize oil companies, the tax on capital investments is so low that it is more than eliminated by var-ious credits. These companiesí returns on those investments are often higher after taxes than before
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Doesn't say some where in the Constitution that there shall be a Congress, and the Congress shall make laws, and the Prez has to sign the law before it can go into effect?
    Article I Sec 8 has 18 clauses that define the powers of Congress and the extent to which it may pass laws.
    Which of those 18 powers specifially relates to providing for the retirement, disability of or health care for/to the people?
    If you cannot find one, the power does not exist; absent a power to that effect, any such legislation violates the Constitution as it exceeds the powers granted to Congress.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    This is just plain silly.
    The INCREASE in entitlement spending from FY2008 to FY2009 exceeds the full cost of the war in Iraq, thus far.
    I value our seniors, I don't value the unnecessary optional GOP war in Iraq. The GOP wanted it, now let them pay for it by giving up their precious tax cuts.

    As I said we have different priorities.
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Finding a Doctor Who Accepts Medicare Isnít Easy - NYTimes.com

    And what effect do you think cutting costs to Medicare Advantage does to the difficulties of finding doctors willing to take medicare?

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    This doesnt address a thing I said.


    This response indicate a great ignorance of how SS works.
    FICA funds go directly to SS outlays; repayment of the SSTF bonds must come from the general fund, or borrowing.
    FICA revenues cannot be used to repay the SSTF bonds because the revenue represented by the SSTF bunds went into the general fund.

    So, my statement stands:
    The $2.6T SS "surplus" doesn't exist; the SSTF is full of IOUs that will be repaid thru borrowing - thus running up the deficits and adding to the debt.

    Congress can increase the FICA cap and lock the funds from general fund use. No need to increase the deficit whatsoever.
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Tell us--specifically--what subsidies the oil companies get from the government. Thanks in advance!

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I value our seniors, I don't value the unnecessary optional GOP war in Iraq. The GOP wanted it, now let them pay for it by giving up their precious tax cuts.

    As I said we have different priorities.
    Maybe the EPA should stop spending billions on job training for jobs that don't exist?

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Tell us--specifically--what subsidies the oil companies get from the government. Thanks in advance!
    Did you read the article he referenced?

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