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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Is the difference between their tax benefits and ours worth $10k/year? If so, please be specific.
    Absolutely, given that the average family health insurance policy in this country runs about $14k/yr.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Is the difference between their tax benefits and ours worth $10k/year? If so, please be specific.
    Your the one who brought the issue up. The burden is on you to show that the difference is not worth it
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Absolutely, given that the average family health insurance policy in this country runs about $14k/yr.
    that's what the average family is paying? or that's what the average family would have to pay if no one got insurance from their employers?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Absolutely, given that the average family health insurance policy in this country runs about $14k/yr.
    Secondly, in case you didn't notice, that chart shows DISPOSABLE income.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    that's what the average family is paying? or that's what the average family would have to pay if no one got insurance from their employers?
    That is what it costs on avg
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    that's what the average family is paying? or that's what the average family would have to pay if no one got insurance from their employers?
    That's what the average policy costs. And just because the employer is covering part of the premium doesn't mean that you aren't paying for it. You are, in terms of lower salary.

    There was an interesting article (can't remember where) talking about the well documented flat wages for working people over the last decade. What the author pointed out was that wages in fact were not flat, but what should have been a 5-6% wage increase was all eaten up by rising health care costs.

    [edit: similar article from Slate]



    More on how medical inflation ate your pay raise. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's what the average policy costs. And just because the employer is covering part of the premium doesn't mean that you aren't paying for it. You are, in terms of lower salary.
    but the chart in my post was about wages, HELLO

    Here's something else to ponder.
    List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    One of the main criteria that the UN uses in those rankings is infant mortality. That's because poorer countries tend to have higher infant mortality due to malnourished mothers. The infant mortality rate is high in the US because of a high incidence of illicit drug use. Unless you think that low taxes are the cause of the US's high incidence of illicit drug use, our ranking shouldn't be brought down by that and we might end up being #1 if that wasn't weighted so heavily. Either way, #3 is a high ranking.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    More on how medical inflation ate your pay raise - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine
    slate?

    LOL!

    michael kinsley?

    should i ask your conservative correspondents what NEWSMAX says?

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    slate?

    LOL!

    michael kinsley?

    should i ask your conservative correspondents what NEWSMAX says?
    Ad hominem? Logical fallacy? LOL

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    The relevant test is to point out where the Constitution gives the government the power to create SS, SSI, Medicare, etc.
    Doesn't say some where in the Constitution that there shall be a Congress, and the Congress shall make laws, and the Prez has to sign the law before it can go into effect? Your turn, where does it say that SS, SSI, Medicare, are unconstitutional?
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