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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

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    i understand, and i'm sorry, give her my best

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I thought I was pretty clear, but okay. You are pointing at one side of the equation (taxes) and saying, "isn't that awfule!" But you aren't saying anything about the other side of the equation (services, such as health care, education, infrastructure, retirement, etc.).

    So, for example, you could say, "my Lord, I'm paying $20,000/yr. in taxes -- isn't that awful!" But if those taxes go to providing health care, allowing you to do without a $14k/yr. insurance plan, and public transportation, allowing you to do without $6,000 in car payments, and good schools, allowing you to do without a $25k/yr. private school tuition ... it's actually a pretty good deal.
    That sounds like a good reply to the OP, but not my post, unless you think that other countries are enjoying so much more benefits from their taxes that it offsets the huge difference in income.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

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    invasion? certainly.

    collapse of the world trade system followed by the immediate collapse of the US Economy???
    Collapse of the economy due to the drop in aggregate demand caused by reduced defense spending? Or do you mean collapse of the economy due to things like piracy?
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    That sounds like a good reply to the OP, but not my post, unless you think that other countries are enjoying so much more benefits from their taxes that it offsets the huge difference in income.
    Yes, I do think they enjoy superior benefits. I think that's pretty clear if you've ever traveled in Europe.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    That sounds like a good reply to the OP, but not my post, unless you think that other countries are enjoying so much more benefits from their taxes that it offsets the huge difference in income.
    Now you'ce changed your argument from "is it good or bad" to "do taxpayers like it".

    And your inference that low taxes=higher income is contradicted by our economic situation, where millions have seen their income go to zero
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The issue is the claim that the US is a high tax nation and that if we raise taxes, businesses will move to other nations where the taxes are lower
    Bill Clinton calls for corporate tax cut - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    now, if you don't have the former president in opposition...

    how do you think joe manchin's gonna come down?

    think much?

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

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    Bill Clinton calls for corporate tax cut - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    now, if you don't have the former president in opposition...

    how do you think joe manchin's gonna come down?

    think much?
    Obama Backs Corporate Rate Cut Along With Tax Simplification - Bloomberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    so many of the insurers seem to randomly decide what they will and will not pay for, or if they do pay, how much they will cover
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, I do think they enjoy superior benefits. I think that's pretty clear if you've ever traveled in Europe.
    Is the difference between their tax benefits and ours worth $10k/year? If so, please be specific.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You can't know if they're paying too much without looking at what they get for the money
    true, and what we're all gonna get for our money---long term---is a whole lot less than we were promised---in social security, medicare coverage, medicaid (for our less fortunate friends and neighbors) and pensions

    the big 3 entitlements alone are up against 61.6 trillion dollars of paper promises exacerbated by 5.3T more per year

    U.S. funding for future promises lags by trillions - USATODAY.com

    if something isn't done now to fundamentally restructure our budgets, then our precious programs will expire

    on the tax side---there's not enough revenue in the milky way, like spitting in an ocean

    facts

    leadership, anyone?

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