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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    but isn't that cost merely passed along to the taxpayer, and aren't you trying to reduce the cost of health care?
    No because the medical schools deliberately do not train enough doctors in order to create excess demand which drives up prices
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Who did that?
    IIRc, it was you who complained about the govt cutting spending that goes to providers
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahh, so you believe the senior population is going to increase by 160 million in the next few years, while the number under 65 drops the same amount..... how's life in lala land ??

    I see you are a fan of the EX one-term congressman Alan Grayson............why am I not surprised.
    I see you have nothing but your unsubstantiated claims. Meanwhile, the real world has proven that socialized medicine is cheaper than what we have now, but you oppose that which puts you in support of a system which has been driving govt spending on health care to go higher and higher.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So why are you arguing that they are paying too much, but not paying at all won't affect their profits?
    You have a habit of lying about me.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Generally the insured has little or no bargaining power
    school districts in wisconsin are turning multi million dollar deficits into equally large surpluses overnite by shopping for health care providers which they were previously prevented from doing by collective bargaining agreements which forced teachers to go exclusively thru the wea for insurance

    Union curbs rescue a Wisconsin school district | Washington Examiner

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Make med school free...problem solved
    link?

    LOL!

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    We can start with a single payer, universal health care system which costs less than the system we have now
    LOL!

    you couldn't even get two dozen senators

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm very surprised but happy both you and Turtledude are of the opinion that elimination the Bush tax cuts will lower taxes for the wealthy.

    Sure does seem strange, if that is the case, that the GOP has been fighting so hard to protect them.
    it won't lower taxes - it does risk lowering revenue. It will also lower growth and increase unemployment.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No because the medical schools deliberately do not train enough doctors in order to create excess demand which drives up prices
    yes, but they do this under the pressure of the AMA; which is functionally a guild. if we were to replace our accreditation method to allow medical personnel to take a test (like lawyers take the bar), we could go far to reducing their power.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You're arguing that doctors have to charge so much because medical school is so expensive (btw, it's a lot more than $50k/yr!). QED, if doctors don't have to pay for medical school then they can charge less. There is, of course, a precedent for this: the VA system.
    the funny thing is, you're right, but I don't think you realize why

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