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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Which part are you disputing?
    I'm saying that people who claim to be fiscally conservative in argument are frequently not fiscally conservative in practice.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes and I remember how bush* and the repubs refused to put it on the budget. They kept passing "emergency spending bills" to pay for it. Year after year of emergencies for a war of choice that was supposed to last "weeks, not months"
    that is correct. and perfect evidence that neither party can be trusted, which is why a Balanced Budget Amendment is needed

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    $2.6T surplus? As accumulated in the SS trust fund?
    It doesn't exist. The SSTF is full of IOUs that will be repaid thru borrowing - thus running up the deficits and adding to the debt.
    The surplus is guaranteed though the full failt and credit of the US. The FICA cap will need to be raised to repay the SS funds for general fund uses so tax cuts could be provided to the wealthy.
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    This is a good theory, but you enjoy freedom, and in order to be free, we have to be the strongest one on the block, and that cost money.
    I thought we were born with inalienable rights.

    Also, I think we could cut military spending just a tad before we have to begin worrying about an invasion.
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm saying that people who claim to be fiscally conservative in argument are frequently not fiscally conservative in practice.
    I never said otherwise.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The surplus is guaranteed though the full failt and credit of the US.
    that is not true. the special notes issued to the Trust Fund are guaranteed only by the Word of Congress (you are free to decide for yourself how much that is worth), not the Full Faith and Credit of the United States.

    The FICA cap will need to be raised to repay the SS funds for general fund uses so tax cuts could be provided to the wealthy.
    even the AARP now agrees that popping the cap won't get you enough to fund SS. benefits will have to be reduced

    because a surplus isn't coming.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    I thought we were born with inalienable rights.

    Also, I think we could cut military spending just a tad before we have to begin worrying about an invasion.

    invasion? certainly.

    collapse of the world trade system followed by the immediate collapse of the US Economy???

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who is throwing old folks under the bus?
    Have you somehow missed all the Republican proposals to cut benefits to seniors through SS and Medicare in order to continue the tax breaks for the wealthy???
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes and I remember how bush* and the repubs refused to put it on the budget. They kept passing "emergency spending bills" to pay for it. Year after year of emergencies for a war of choice that was supposed to last "weeks, not months"
    But we had all those SS trust funds just sitting there and seniors would never need that money in the future, right?
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