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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    nope it means responsible spending and responsible taxes.
    You're thinking of fiscal responsibility.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    I love this. thanks for enlightening the "TP Patriots". Does the GOP really beleive that they are fiscally responsible? Remember Iraq, the current cash cow?
    Yes and I remember how bush* and the repubs refused to put it on the budget. They kept passing "emergency spending bills" to pay for it. Year after year of emergencies for a war of choice that was supposed to last "weeks, not months"
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    One of the big disconnects I see is conservatives arguing about high corporate and personal tax rates, while liberals point to low effective tax rates, especially for the wealthy and corporations. Here's an idea: why don't we stop using the tax code as a way to incentivize or reward certain behaviors and start using it as a tool to equitably collect revenue for appropriate government functions? Yes, we'll all fight about what's "appropriate," but let's agree that we need a tax code overhaul that simplifies everything. I hate having to play games with FSAs, IRAs, and whatever other alphabet soup I can to avoid taxes. Let's just let people spend their money how they want, without massive tax implications.
    Repubs hate any talk of eliminating tax breaks and subsidies and then they turn around and complain about the EITC's

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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That would be too much like actual liberty and the Libbos just can't have that. The quickest way to control any given citizenry is through their pocket book. You can tyrranyze a civilization that is totally independent of the government for it's day-to-day neccessities.
    This is a good theory, but you enjoy freedom, and in order to be free, we have to be the strongest one on the block, and that cost money.
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    This is a good theory, but you enjoy freedom, and in order to be free, we have to be the strongest one on the block, and that cost money.
    I don't believe that confiscation of private wealth is going to achieve that goal.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Repubs hate any talk of eliminating tax breaks and subsidies and then they turn around and complain about the EITC's

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    Which ones are you referring to?

    Please, be specific, don't give us the usual, lame ass, "oil company subsidies", line of crapola.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    fiscally conservative = low taxes + low spending

    fiscally liberal = high taxes + high spending

    There are many exceptions, but for the most part, the Republicans are usually more fiscally conservative than Democrats.
    That would be true if you're only talking about rhetoric. But if you're talking about REALITY, it's quite a different picture.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That would be true if you're only talking about rhetoric. But if you're talking about REALITY, it's quite a different picture.
    Which part are you disputing?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    link please
    http://www.ctj.org/pdf/oecd201106.pdf

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    There's a lot of truth in that, but it's all relative. For the most part, Republicans are more fiscally conservative than Democrats. Even when Republicans increase spending, the Democrats usually want more.

    I have seen no evidence or that in the last 30 years, all I have seen is different spending priorities. It was the GOP majority vote that created the biggest part of our recent debt, the optional war in Iraq.
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