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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

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    A hint: Nixon is dead and Bush is no longer president.
    Yes, let's ignore history and facts
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, let's ignore history and facts
    Espeically, if they're totally irrelevant to the debate.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Here is some history for you. Historically its like ice skating uphill to get revenue past 17% of GDP. Raising taxes simply raises the amount of money people will put into avoidance and judge their ROI via risk by locating elsewhere or not expanding when its an option. Its not just taxes anymore, its also regulatory burden, legislative red tape, and uncertainty.

    Raise GDP and you will raise federal revenue. It really is that simple.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    What the Euro-trash fail to realize is that the United States was never intended to be a Socialist Utopia like Europe wants to be. We as Americans do not turn to the Government to fix all of our problems; or at least we're not supposed to. Ours was intended to be a LIMITED Government, not an all-encompassing one, like they have chosen to submit to in Europe. Therefore, we are much less interested in paying into a government that we don't feel we're getting anything out of, and don't want anything from.

    Do you consider Canada to be a Socialist utopia?
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Cmon now...we all know we have to give all the turtledudes a tax cut so they create lots of jobs...along with all lawyers and doctors and anyone else thats rich...tax cuts are for one purpose JOB CREATION for the peasants....<guffaw>

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Cmon now...we all know we have to give all the turtledudes a tax cut so they create lots of jobs...along with all lawyers and doctors and anyone else thats rich...tax cuts are for one purpose JOB CREATION for the peasants....<guffaw>
    It makes sense to me, if a business or corporation has more money... they will invest more... Any business owners and such can set their own wages, if you tax them below a certain amount they want for their income... they will simply raise their own income and take out the money from somewhere else, maybe someone else's paycheck.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Espeically, if they're totally irrelevant to the debate.
    But that's the only thing they can think of...

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    It makes sense to me, if a business or corporation has more money... they will invest more... Any business owners and such can set their own wages, if you tax them below a certain amount they want for their income... they will simply raise their own income and take out the money from somewhere else, maybe someone else's paycheck.
    We've had a decade of the Bush tax cuts, where are the jobs?

    You falsely assume that every rich person that gets more of a tax break greater than the median income of 90% of the country, is not going to do what they have been doing for the last decade, investing that money in other countries rather than the country that gave them the tax break to begin with.
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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    It makes sense to me, if a business or corporation has more money... they will invest more... Any business owners and such can set their own wages, if you tax them below a certain amount they want for their income... they will simply raise their own income and take out the money from somewhere else, maybe someone else's paycheck.
    You cant be serious...you cant differentiate between personal tax cuts and corporate....personal tax cuts go to lawyers and doctors and CEOs and accountants and any one else thats in a top tier bracket and they create NOTHING that goes right in their pocket....its a BS story...if you want to create jobs cutting taxs...then you cut tax for Companies only if they actually create jobs...then they get a tax cut...bush tax cuts personal tax cuts to the richest americans and corporations and it didnt create a job....it lined pockets

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    You cant be serious...you cant differentiate between personal tax cuts and corporate....personal tax cuts go to lawyers and doctors and CEOs and accountants and any one else thats in a top tier bracket and they create NOTHING that goes right in their pocket....its a BS story...if you want to create jobs cutting taxs...then you cut tax for Companies only if they actually create jobs...then they get a tax cut...bush tax cuts personal tax cuts to the richest americans and corporations and it didnt create a job....it lined pockets
    Then of course you get in the business of telling people what to do with money and how to manage their business. Talking of a BS story.

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