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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If I am not mistaken
    Social Security is not the issue. It is funded through a specific tax that currently is either in surplus or just slightly in the red. Which given the surplus from previous years means it is not the issue regarding todays deficits
    1: The "specific tax" argument is meaningless. The deficit is figured with every dollar of revenue compared to every dollar of outlay. Every dollar of SS spending is an outlay, and so every dollar of SS spending contributes to the deficit.
    2: When the SSTF IOUs come due, the only way to pay them back is from general revenues or more borrowing. Either way, this will drive up the deficit even more.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Obviously it isn't enough to pay for the government that most Americans want. The issue is both spending and taxes.
    But you gotta admit, it was a slick way to avoid addressing anything that was posted in the OP
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Obviously it isn't enough to pay for the government that most Americans want.
    Perhaps you need to consider that, in terms of their government, what 'most Americans want" isn't reasonable.

    Deficits are always a choice - you CHOOSE to run one by spending more than you have.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    But you gotta admit, it was a slick way to avoid addressing anything that was posted in the OP
    Yeah, I wonder if that argument works both ways? Can I say, "hey, you make $10 million a year -- that's enough money for anyone. The rest goes to the government."

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Perhaps you need to consider that, in terms of their government, what 'most Americans want" isn't reasonable.

    Deficits are always a choice - you CHOOSE to run one by spending more than you have.
    Majority rules.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Majority rules.
    You're right..........and the majority spoke at the voting booth last November.

    They will speak again in November 2012.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Majority rules.
    Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said.

    But, I am glad to see you can admit that deficits are a choice, that you CHOOSE to run one by spending more than you have.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Majority rules.
    Minority rights and enumerated powers.

    What country do you live in that you think you have a right to "rule" over others simply because you have a mob behind you? How sick.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Minority rights and enumerated powers.

    What country do you live in that you think you have a right to "rule" over others simply because you have a mob behind you? How sick.
    I think I live in the U.S.A., where the government is elected by a majority and laws are SUPPOSED to be passed by a majority vote.

    I don't think I would like to live in your country that's ruled by a minority. I think that's what they call a dictatorship.

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    Re: U.S.: In state of denial over taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I think I live in the U.S.A., where the government is elected by a majority and laws are SUPPOSED to be passed by a majority vote.
    I don't think I would like to live in your country that's ruled by a minority. I think that's what they call a dictatorship.
    Based on the above I think you misunderstand the discussion.

    Minority rights and enumerated powers means there are limits as to what the federal government majority can rule over, in the first place.

    Is freedom so foreign to you that you can only envision two scenarios?
    A majority government ruling you, or a minority government ruling you?

    How about your government is supposed to allow you to rule yourself on most things? What are they teaching you in school????

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