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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

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    Really, Employment was up in June? These are the employment numbers and employment is down from 139.8 to 139.3 or 500k loss of jobs. Once again the liberal media and Obama have lied to you
    Holy ****! You must think Fox news is Liberal!

    Hopes Dashed: Only 18,000 Jobs Created

    How about the Wall Street Journal -- they're Liberal too?

    The government's broadest snapshot of employment showed the nation added just 18,000 jobs in June.


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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Can you give me a date and time when you will stop lying?

    Can you show how Obama put 24 million people under employed since he became president? Because my understanding, using your math, is that 22 million of them were already underemployed when Obama became president.

    And of course that number grew since he was handed 22 million underemployed folks along with a monster recession and a $1.2 trillion budget deficit and a negative 8.9% GDP.
    Would be happy to when you show me how Bush lost 8 million jobs and created the recession?

    The recession ended 4 months after Obama took office hardly time for him to make a difference. The 24 million unemployed and under Employed Americans, .4% and 1.3% GDP growth in the first two qtrs of 2011 are two years later. Just a simple fact that you want to ignore. GW Bush didn't have 24 million unemployed or under employed plus .4% and 1.3% GDP growth two years after the end of the 2001 recession.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Holy ****! You must think Fox news is Liberal!

    Hopes Dashed: Only 18,000 Jobs Created

    How about the Wall Street Journal -- they're Liberal too?

    The government's broadest snapshot of employment showed the nation added just 18,000 jobs in June.

    I posted the BLS data which of course you ignored. those are the official numbers and it seems that you have 40% of the people supporting you and your position. Just think how good the numbers will look if you can get a few more million to drop out of the labor force because they cannot find a job
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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Republicans opposed his effort and the stimulus had to be scaled back to get even moderate (but necessary) support.
    LOL!

    he had sixty senators plus snowe and collins and 78 downstairs

    Obama wanted a public option in the health care reform bill, which would have reduced the deficit, but that was a line in the sand for republicans, who opposed it.
    you don't know what you're talking about

    Update: List of Dem Senators Who Don't Support the Public Option | CarlBentham's Blog

    Obama wanted to the top-tier Bush tax cuts to expire
    44 senate democrats in lame duck voted AGAINST shared sacrifice

    Tax-cut plan clears Senate easily - Carrie Budoff Brown and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

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    Britain is trying to privatize their medical system. France is doing the same thing. Have you been to any of those countries? You buy what you are told and has been proven with actual numbers you are being made a fool of by the leftwing media and liberal elite
    No, Britain is not trying to privatize it's health care system. They are talking about possibly opening it up to *some* livel of private competition, but the plans have already been scaled back due to heavy opposition from the public and the medical community. Get your facts straight. NHS services to be opened up to competition | Society | The Guardian

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Would be happy to when you show me how Bush lost 8 million jobs and created the recession?
    My pleasure ...

    Bush's Great Recession began in Dec/2007, the total number of unemployed+discouraged workers was:

    8,033,000

    Bush's Great Recession ended in Jun/2009, the total number of unemployed+discouraged workers was:

    15,569,000

    Grand total jobs lost during Bush's Great Recession: 7,536,000 -- or rounded to 8 million.

    Any more questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The recession ended 4 months after Obama took office hardly time for him to make a difference. The 24 million unemployed and under Employed Americans, .4% and 1.3% GDP growth in the first two qtrs of 2011 are two years later. Just a simple fact that you want to ignore. GW Bush didn't have 24 million unemployed or under employed plus .4% and 1.3% GDP growth two years after the end of the 2001 recession.
    How come you struggle with providing the same information more than once? You are constantantly "adjusting" your figures as though you really don't know what the actual figures are. Now the recession ended in May, '09? Before you said June.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, Britain is not trying to privatize it's health care system. They are talking about possibly opening it up to *some* livel of private competition, but the plans have already been scaled back due to heavy opposition from the public and the medical community. Get your facts straight. NHS services to be opened up to competition | Society | The Guardian
    If the single pay was working so well they wouldn't do that at all. My facts are straight, the public sector promoting cradle to grave coverage doesn't give a damn about costs but only coverage and sounds a lot like you. Costs have to be paid and apparently you have no problem as long as someone else pays it. Europe is trying to unravel the entitlement mentality there just like you are embracing it here

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    My pleasure ...

    Bush's Great Recession began in Dec/2007, the total number of unemployed+discouraged workers was:

    8,033,000

    Bush's Great Recession ended in Jun/2009, the total number of unemployed+discouraged workers was:

    15,569,000

    Grand total jobs lost during Bush's Great Recession: 7,536,000 -- or rounded to 8 million.

    Any more questions?


    How come you struggle with providing the same information more than once? You are constantantly "adjusting" your figures as though you really don't know what the actual figures are. Now the recession ended in May, '09? Before you said June.
    What specifically did Bush do to lose those jobs? Recession ended in June 2009 and here we are two years later and those are the Obama numbers.

    As for the lost jobs, amazing how you ignore there was still a net job gain during the Bush years but that doesn't matter to an ideologue like you.
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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If the single pay was working so well they wouldn't do that at all. My facts are straight, the public sector promoting cradle to grave coverage doesn't give a damn about costs but only coverage and sounds a lot like you. Costs have to be paid and apparently you have no problem as long as someone else pays it. Europe is trying to unravel the entitlement mentality there just like you are embracing it here
    Your facts are wrong. Britain is not trying to privatize it's health care system. Neither is France. In fact France has always had private doctors and hospitals and optional private insurance. Britain is somewhat unique insofar as it is a completely government run operation. That is not a system I would emulate. The French model is better.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What specifically did Bush do to lose those jobs? Recession ended in June 2009 and here we are two years later and those are the Obama numbers.

    As for the lost jobs, amazing how you ignore there was still a net job gain during the Bush years but that doesn't matter to an ideologue like you.
    The fact that the recession technically ended does not mean that the economy suddenly started booming. It just means that GDP stopped contracting.

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