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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Would love to discuss GHW Bush vs. Clinton with you but you need to start a GHW Bush vs. Clinton thread. This thread isn't about GHW Bush, GW Bush, Ronald Reagan, or Bill Clinton. What you want to do is divert from the current President and try to justify your vote by bashing previous Presidents.
    As seen here, it's a good bet that, when ubale to defend a point, a lberal will resort to a red herring, personal insults, or both.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The election will be about jobs and the economy, and most Americans understand who is responsible for the Great Recession. If they were starting to forget, this debt limit "debate" should refresh their recollections.
    You mean the "Great Recession" that ended in June 2009? Here we are two years later and the GDP Growth is .4% and 1.3% the first two qtrs of 2011. Please tell me how Bush is responsible for those numbers?

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The election will be about jobs and the economy, and most Americans understand who is responsible for the Great Recession.
    Indeed. Say goodbye to your Secular Messiah.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    As seen here, it's a good bet that, when ubale to defend a point, a lberal will resort to a red herring, personal insults, or both.
    That was pretty self-referential, wasn't it.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post

    You did notice that -I- suggested an exeption to a balanced budget during times of declared war - right?
    However, we arent discussing a declared war, we're discussing your issue of a Katrina-like natural disaster.
    Because ... again ... there are many different reasons for why such exceptions would need to be in there. I just don't see th point in creating an amendment that's so bad on it's own, that it requires all those loopholes; when the other option is -- don't re-elect someone you feel is abusing the budget.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    As seen here, it's a good bet that, when ubale to defend a point, a lberal will resort to a red herring, personal insults, or both.
    Yep, along with diverting, distorting, and then name calling

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    [COLOR=blue]Because ... again ... there are many different reasons for why such exceptions would need to be in there.
    No, there's not. War is about it.
    You -tried- to show the need for an exception other than war, but you failed.
    And so, while you want to claim it is bad idea, you have yet to show how or why.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    The CBO score for the agreement can be found at: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/123xx/doc...rolActAug1.pdf

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Would love to discuss GHW Bush vs. Clinton with you but you need to start a GHW Bush vs. Clinton thread.
    Translation: GHW Bush's economic plan was to raise taxes, Conservative voted for that, but doesn't want to admit it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    This thread isn't about GHW Bush, GW Bush, Ronald Reagan, or Bill Clinton. What you want to do is divert from the current President and try to justify your vote by bashing previous Presidents.
    So? The thread topic never hindered your interest in veering away from it when it suits you. I've seen you posting about Obama and the economy in a thread about "why the left hates Sarah Palin."

    Regrettably, you use the thread topic as a shield to defend yourself from losing arguments.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Not happy with this agreement at all.
    But at least we didnt default...


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